Author: Sandro Necchi
Date: 08:29:01 11/11/04
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On November 11, 2004 at 10:42:47, Joseph Merolle wrote: >On November 10, 2004 at 19:19:54, Jonas Bylund wrote: > >>On November 10, 2004 at 18:32:17, Joseph Merolle wrote: >> >>>On November 10, 2004 at 13:46:18, Joachim Rang wrote: >>> >>>>On November 10, 2004 at 13:39:21, Fernando Villegas wrote: >>>> >>>>>. >>>> >>>>Yes. There are no plans to enter the market with a Hydra-product anytime. So far >>>>Hydra is simply a fun project of one wealthy Sheik. They are pleased to have the >>>>strongest chess-entity on the planet and are eager to gather experience with big >>>>clusters. For that Hydra is a good test. It is therefore unclear how long they >>>>will support the project or in which direction they will try to develop it. the >>>>above information is from the programmer Chrilly Donninger himself (in a german >>>>board). >>>> >>>>regards Joachim >>> >>>Hydra is not the stroungest program out there its the stroung computer chess >>>system, there is a big differance. Put anyone of the other top 10 programs out >>>there (on the ssdf) using 16 processors and you will see hydra has problems. >>>I realize that these other programs cant do that ( go up to 16 >>>processors)however hydra can be reduced to = the hardwar of the other programs. >>>The hydra team are experts on computers not on chess. Now Stefan Meyer Kahlen is >>>an expert chess programing. A fair statement that even the hydra team would >>>agree to! >>> >>>JAMerolle >> >> >>It might be the strongest chess program even on equal hardware, there is no way >>of knowing. Your statement "Hydra is not the stroungest program out there its >>the stroung computer chess >>>system, there is a big differance." is wrong, do you have proof or are you just guessing? > > > >No i am not guessing , Shredder did vary well against Hydra holding hydra to >draws in many games. The fact that it was able to do this under conditions of >much weaker hardwar proves to me shredder is the better program. I underline the >word weaker there is a huge discrepancy between the two platforms each had to >proform on and yet shredder still was able to hold its own. > Hydra is a very strong player (program + hardware = player), but the match against Shredder is meaningless because a serious bug made our program much weaker. This was found by me, but did not came out on SMK tests. Because I could estimate the damage on the play strenght I was sure that we would not have won a single game and may lose some and that is what happened. It would have been the same against any other top program. Hydra won and this is a fact, but it is also a fact that we have been seriously handicapped by accident and this must be reported. It is amazing that with such handicap we got second place at 2004 WCCC, but if one analyses the game played by Shredder you can see how much difficult it was for Shredder to win the games that we won. I really hope we will have another chance to match Hydra, because without the bug it will not be so easy for them... Sandro > >Regards Joseph
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