Author: David H. McClain
Date: 07:04:35 11/13/04
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>>Steve,
>>
>>If you have noticed, the participation in the ICC "engine room" is also steadily
>>declining. I attribute this to the facts stated in your post.
>>
>>There are also quite a few operators who play open formula, but not enough
>>anymore. It's too bad, they are good people.
>>
>>Many of us have approached the owners of ICC regarding this to no avail. It's
>>like talking to a brick wall. I probably won't be renewing my membership next
>>year at ICC.
>>
>>Except for Bob Hyatt's two accounts, and perhaps one or two others that test vs.
>>humans and computers using two accounts, I don't understand why many computers,
>>including dual processors, enjoy playing 1600 rated humans all day long. Yet
>>these same accounts, when things get slow or if they want to enhance their
>>rating, go pick on some of the "weak sisters" for a series of games that they
>>know they will win to re-establish their standings.
>>
>>The fault directly falls on the administration of ICC. DHM
>
>First, let me make a correction to my earlier post: it's not "nocomputer", it's
>"!computer".
>
>Second, I thought that computer players weren't supposed to issue challenges
>("match") to human players, although "rematch" challenges were permitted. Is
>this how a dual CPU box as you've mentioned can choose 1600 Elo players over the
>general opponent pool?
>
>Third, it seems that close to half of the ICC computer players have "!computer"
>in their formula. I'm thinking of making a "hall of shame" list.
>
>Fourth, why is it that some opponents offer draws to a computer player even when
>they're a piece down with no chance of escaping an eventual checkmate?
>Sometimes an offer comes in even after Symbolic has announced via tell that it
>has a forced mate in N moves! They're wasting their time making these offers to
>Symbolic as I've programmed its xboard interface to ignore all such input.
Steve,
I was not making myself entirely clear, but I did interpret your post as
"!computer."
What I meant was the !computer accounts "allow" humans to play them. Many
titled players do play them, but in the course of a day, their history shows
many ~ 1600 - 1800 ratings or lower. This is simply the residue from having
!computer in a formula when titled players no longer wish to play. I have never
challenged a human on ICC, and don't wish to play them, so I assume comps cannot
challenge humans, but I don't know. I think you are being conservative with
"close to half of the ICC computer players have !computer in their formula."
I suppose getting kicks out of defeating Titled players 1 0 - 5 0 at blitz all
day long is some sort of gratification. Of course, it's a two way street....
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