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Subject: Kurious Position (from Olympia 2004): Pur Program-Analyses?

Author: Eduard Nemeth

Date: 11:16:40 11/13/04


First the game with my comment:

[Event "36th Olympiad"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2004.??.??"]
[Round "14"]
[White "Fier, A."]
[Black "Pazos Gambarrotti, P."]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B27"]
[WhiteElo "2365"]
[BlackElo "2400"]
[PlyCount "269"]
[EventDate "2004.??.??"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 g6 3. d4 Bg7 4. dxc5 Qa5+ 5. Nc3 Bxc3+ 6. bxc3 Nc6 7. Bd3 Nf6
8. O-O Qxc5 9. c4 d6 10. Bb2 O-O 11. Rb1 a6 12. Qe2 Ne5 13. Nd2 Bg4 14. Qe1 Be6
15. Bxe5 dxe5 16. Rxb7 Rfb8 17. Rxb8+ Rxb8 18. Qa1 Nd7 19. Rb1 Rc8 20. Qc3 Qc7
21. Qa3 Nc5 22. Nb3 Qd6 23. Nxc5 Rxc5 24. Qa4 Kg7 25. h4 Bd7 26. Qb4 Be6 27. h5
g5 28. Qb7 Bc8 29. Qa7 Qc7 30. Qxc7 Rxc7 31. Rb6 h6 32. Kf1 Be6 33. Rxa6 Bxc4
34. Ra3 Bxd3+ 35. cxd3 Rc2 36. g4 Rb2 37. Kg2 Rd2 38. Kf3 Kf6 39. Ke3 Rd1 40.
Rb3 Re1+ 41. Kf3 Ra1 42. Rb2 Re1 43. Re2 Rd1 44. Ke3 Ra1 45. f3 Rd1 46. Rc2
Re1+ 47. Kd2 Rf1 48. Kc3 Ke6 49. a4 Kd6 50. Kb2 Rxf3 51. a5 Rxd3 52. a6 Rd4 53.
Kb3 Rd3+ 54. Kb4 Rd1 55. Ra2 Rb1+ 56. Kc4 Rc1+ 57. Kd3 Rc8 58. a7 Ra8 59. Kc4
Kc7 60. Kb5 Kb7 61. Rf2 f6 62. Rd2 Rxa7 63. Rd7+ Kb8 64. Rd8+ Kc7 65. Rh8 Ra1
66. Rxh6 Re1 67. Rh7 Kd7 68. h6 Rxe4 69. Rxe7+ Kxe7 70. h7 Rxg4 71. h8=Q Rf4
72. Kc5 Ke6 73. Qc8+ Kf7 74. Qd7+ Kg6 75. Qe8+ Kf5 76. Kd6 Ke4 77. Qa4+ Kf3 78.
Qd1+ Kg2 79. Qe2+ Kh3 80. Qe3+ Kh4 81. Qe1+ Kh5 82. Qh1+ Kg6 83. Qb1+ e4 84.
Ke6 g4 85. Qb8 Rf3 86. Qg8+ Kh5 87. Qh7+ Kg5 88. Qxe4 f5 89. Qe2 f4 90. Qe5+
Kh4 91. Kf5 Rf2 92. Qg7 Rg2 93. Qh6+ Kg3 94. Qxf4+ Kh3 95. Kg5 Rg1 96. Qf2 Rg3
97. Kh5 Rf3 98. Qh4+ Kg2 99. Qxg4+ Kf2 100. Qd4+ Ke2 101. Kg4 Rd3 102. Qc5 Kd2
103. Kf4 Rc3 104. Qb5 Kc2 105. Ke4 Rb3 106. Qa5 Rc3 107. Qa2+ Kd1 108. Kd4 Rf3
109. Qg2 Rb3 110. Qg1+ Kd2 111. Qg5+ Kc2 112. Qc5+ Kd1 113. Qh5+ Kd2 114. Qa5+
Kc1 115. Qa1+ Kc2 116. Qa2+ Rb2 117. Qc4+ Kd1 118. Kd3 Rd2+ 119. Ke3 Rb2 120.
Qd4+ Kc2 121. Qd3+ Kc1 122. Qc3+ Kb1 123. Kd3 Ka2 124. Qc4+ Ka3 125. Qc1 Kb3
126. Qd1+ Kb4 127. Qg4+ Ka3 128. Qe6 Kb4 129. Qe1+ Kb3 130. Qa5 Rb1 131. Qb5+
Ka2 132. Qa4+ Kb2 133. Kd2 Rh1 134. Qb5+ Ka3 135. Qa6+ 1-0


Fier,A - Pazos Gambarrotti,P, 36th Olympiad 2004


Gewinnen kann nur noch Schwarz, aber...

Wins can only black now or?

[D]8/8/3K1p2/4p1p1/Q4r2/5k2/8/8 w - - 0 1

White can not win with the only Queen (without his King!)

Aber die meisten Programme sehen die nackte Dame (da der wKönig nicht zu Hilfe
kommen kann und bei Schwarz alles gedeckt ist) alleine alleine dasteht.

Gibt es hier wenigstens daher ein Programm das Schwarz leicht im Vorteil sieht?

Schwarz patze noch und verlor. Dabei hätte er mit einem nicht einfach zu
findenden Zug Remis halten können (siehe mein Kommentar in der PGN Notation).

Neue Partie,
8/8/3K1p2/4p1p1/Q4r2/5k2/8/8 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Yace 0.99.86:

1.Dxf4+ exf4 2.Kd5
-+ (-11.30) Tiefe: 1 00:00:00
1.De4+ Kxe4
-+ (-9.53) Tiefe: 1 00:00:00
1.De4+ Kxe4
-+ (-9.53) Tiefe: 1 00:00:00
1.Dc2
² (0.57) Tiefe: 1 00:00:00
1.Dd1+ Ke4
± (0.76) Tiefe: 1 00:00:00
1.Dd1+ Ke4
± (0.76) Tiefe: 1 00:00:00
1.Dd1+ Ke4
± (0.76) Tiefe: 1 00:00:00
1.Dd1+ Ke4 2.Dc2+ Ke3 3.Dc3+ Ke4
± (0.78) Tiefe: 2 00:00:00
1.Dd1+ Ke4 2.Dc2+ Ke3 3.Dc3+ Ke4
± (0.78) Tiefe: 2 00:00:00
1.Dd1+ Kg3 2.Dg1+ Kf3 3.Dh1+ Ke2 4.Kd5
± (0.78) Tiefe: 3 00:00:00
1.Dd1+ Kg3 2.Dg1+ Kf3 3.Dh1+ Ke2 4.Kd5
± (0.78) Tiefe: 3 00:00:00
1.Dd1+ Kf2 2.Dc2+ Ke3 3.Dc3+ Ke2 4.Db2+ Ke3 5.Db3+ Kf2 6.Dc2+ Ke3 7.Dc3+ Ke2
8.Db2+ Ke3 9.Db3+ Kf2 10.Dc2+
± (0.77) Tiefe: 4 00:00:00
1.Dd1+ Kf2 2.Dc2+ Ke3 3.Dc3+ Ke2 4.Db2+ Ke3 5.Db3+ Kf2 6.Dc2+ Ke3 7.Dc3+ Ke2
8.Db2+ Ke3 9.Db3+ Kf2 10.Dc2+
± (0.77) Tiefe: 4 00:00:00
1.Dd1+ Kf2 2.Dc2+ Ke3 3.Dc3+ Ke2 4.Db2+ Ke1 5.Ke6 g4 6.Kd5
± (0.77) Tiefe: 5 00:00:00
1.Dd1+ Kf2 2.Dc2+ Ke3 3.Dc3+ Ke2 4.Db2+ Ke1 5.Ke6 g4 6.Kd5
± (0.77) Tiefe: 5 00:00:00
1.Dd1+ Ke3 2.De1+ Kf3 3.Kd5 e4 4.Dd1+ Ke3 5.Dc1+ Kf3 6.Df1+ Kg3 7.De1+ Kf3
8.Dd1+ Ke3 9.Dc1+ Kf3 10.Df1+ Kg3 11.De1+ Kf3
± (0.76) Tiefe: 6/19 00:00:01 218kN
1.Dd1+ Ke3 2.De1+ Kf3 3.Kd5 e4 4.Dd1+ Ke3 5.Dc1+ Kf3 6.Df1+ Kg3 7.De1+ Kf3
8.Dd1+ Ke3 9.Dc1+ Kf3 10.Df1+ Kg3 11.De1+ Kf3
± (0.76) Tiefe: 6/21 00:00:02 259kN
1.Dd1+ Ke3 2.De1+ Kf3 3.Dc3+ Kg4 4.Dc2 e4 5.Dg2+ Kf5 6.Dh3+ Kg6 7.De6 Th4 8.De8+
Kh6
± (0.76) Tiefe: 7/25 00:00:03 569kN
1.Dd1+ Ke3 2.De1+ Kf3 3.Dc3+ Kg4 4.Dc2 e4 5.Dg2+ Kf5 6.Dh3+ Kg6 7.De6 Th4 8.De8+
Kh6
± (0.76) Tiefe: 7/25 00:00:04 666kN
1.Dd1+ Kg2 2.Dc2+ Kh3 3.Dc3+ Kh2
± (0.74) Tiefe: 8/29 00:00:06 1370kN
1.Dd1+ Kg2 2.Dc2+ Kh3 3.Dc3+ Kh2
± (0.74) Tiefe: 8/29 00:00:08 1651kN
1.Dd1+ Kg2 2.Dc2+ Kh3 3.Dc3+ Kh4 4.De1+ Kh5 5.De2+ Kg6 6.Ke6 e4 7.De3 f5 8.Ke5
Tf3 9.Kd5
± (0.72) Tiefe: 9/30 00:00:11 2777kN
1.Dd1+ Kg2 2.Dc2+ Kh3 3.Dc3+ Kh4 4.De1+ Kh5 5.De2+ Kg6 6.Ke6 e4 7.De3 f5 8.Ke5
Tf3 9.Kd5
± (0.72) Tiefe: 9/31 00:00:13 3260kN
1.Dd1+ Kg2 2.Dc2+ Kh3 3.Dc3+ Kg2 4.Dd2+ Kh3 5.De3+ Kg2 6.De2+ Kh3
² (0.68) Tiefe: 10/33 00:00:19 5589kN
1.Dd1+ Kg2 2.Dc2+ Kh3 3.Dc3+ Kg2 4.Dd2+ Kh3 5.De3+ Kg2 6.De2+ Kh3
² (0.68) Tiefe: 10/33 00:00:22 6308kN
1.Dd1+ Kg2 2.Dc2+ Kh3 3.Dc3+ Kg2 4.Dd2+ Kh3 5.De3+ Kg2 6.De2+ Kh3 7.De3+ Kg2
8.De2+ Kh3 9.De3+
² (0.68) Tiefe: 11/36 00:00:30 9343kN
1.Dd1+ Kg2 2.Dc2+ Kh3 3.Dc3+ Kg2 4.Dd2+ Kh3 5.De3+ Kg2 6.De2+ Kh3 7.De3+ Kg2
8.De2+ Kh3 9.De3+
² (0.68) Tiefe: 11/36 00:00:34 10233kN

Why +0.68 for white?

:)

Na, die arme Dame, was soll die schon alleine da machen? Was meinst Du Dieter?

(Nemeth, Privat 13.11.2004)

Eduard.




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