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Subject: Re: Any engine out there select Qf1? What does Anmon see that others do not?

Author: Kurt Utzinger

Date: 22:52:18 11/13/04

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On November 13, 2004 at 19:15:16, Cliff Sears wrote:

>[d] 4rr1k/pppb2bp/2q1n1p1/4p3/8/1BPPBN2/PP2QPP1/2KR3R w - - 0 20
>
>Out of Crafty1917, Tiger14, Hiarcs8, Anaconda162, and AnMon 5.40 only AnMon
>selects the move played by Steinitz
>
>Commentary from "The Mammoth Book of The World's Greatest Chess Games" by
>Burgess, Nunn, and Emms states:
>
>""More attacking than defensive" - Steinitz.  This subtle queen retreat, which
>has many different purposes, is a move of star quality.  Firstly White removes
>the queen from the e-file, thus eliminating many of Black's tactical tricks
>involving ...Nf4 and ...Nd4. There is also a much deeper aspect to 20 Qf1 which
>becomes obvious very soon."
>
>wKc1,Qe2,Nf3,Bb3,e3,Rd1,h1,Pa2,b2,c3,d3,f2,g2/bKh8,Qc6,Ne6,Bd7,g7,Re8,f8,Pa7,b7,c7,e5,g6,h7
>
>Steinitz,W (2590) - Chigorin,M (2600) [C65]
>GCG_005 Havana (4), 1892
>
>1.e2-e4 e7-e5 2.Ng1-f3 Nb8-c6 3.Bf1-b5 Ng8-f6 4.d2-d3 d7-d6 5.c2-c3 g7-g6
>6.Nb1-d2 Bf8-g7 7.Nd2-f1 0-0 8.Bb5-a4 Nf6-d7 9.Nf1-e3 Nd7-c5 10.Ba4-c2 Nc5-e6
>11.h2-h4 Nc6-e7 12.h4-h5 d6-d5 13.h5xg6 f7xg6 14.e4xd5 Ne7xd5 15.Ne3xd5 Qd8xd5
>16.Bc2-b3 Qd5-c6 17.Qd1-e2 Bc8-d7 18.Bc1-e3 Kg8-h8 19.0-0-0 Ra8-e8 20.Qe2-f1
>a7-a5 21.d3-d4 e5xd4 22.Nf3xd4 Bg7xd4 23.Rd1xd4 Ne6xd4 24.Rh1xh7+ Kh8xh7
>25.Qf1-h1+ Kh7-g7 26.Be3-h6+ Kg7-f6 27.Qh1-h4+ Kf6-e5 28.Qh4xd4+ 1-0
>
>Steinitz,W - Chigorin,M
>4rr1k/pppb2bp/2q1n1p1/4p3/8/1BPPBN2/PP2QPP1/2KR3R w - - 0 1
>
>Analysis by AnMon5.40:
>± (0.73): 20.Qe2-f1 Re8-e7 21.Nf3-g5 Qc6-d6


      AnMon 5.50 does not find 20.Qf1 within reasonable
      time. You have most probably stopped your analysis
      much too early.
      Kurt

FEN: 4rr1k/pppb2bp/2q1n1p1/4p3/8/1BPPBN2/PP2QPP1/2KR3R w - - 8 20

AnMon5.50: (P4 1.8/32 MB hash, Arena 1.092)
   1-	00:00	           3	0	+0.88	Lxe6 Dxe6 Lxa7
   1	00:00	          17	0	+0.60	Lxe6 Lxe6
   1+	00:00	          20	0	+1.41	Lxa7
   1	00:00	          21	0	+1.41	Lxa7
   2	00:00	         117	0	+0.63	Lxa7 e4
   2+	00:00	         185	0	+0.77	Lc4 Sf4
   2	00:00	         194	0	+0.77	Lc4 Sf4
   2+	00:00	         237	0	+0.81	Kb1 e4
   2	00:00	         259	0	+0.81	Kb1 e4
   2+	00:00	         429	0	+0.88	Dc2 Sf4
   2	00:00	         435	0	+0.88	Dc2 Sf4
   3	00:00	       1.209	0	+0.70	Dc2 Sf4 Sg5
   3+	00:00	       1.372	0	+0.73	Kb1 Sc5 Lxc5 Dxc5
   3	00:00	       1.603	0	+0.79	Kb1 e4 dxe4 Dxe4+ Lc2
   3+	00:00	       3.003	0	+0.81	Th4 a5
   3	00:00	       3.139	0	+0.83	Th4 Lf6 Thh1
   4	00:00	       6.192	0	+0.86	Th4 Sf4 Df1 b6
   5	00:00	      22.901	0	+0.65	Th4 Lf6 La4 Tf7 Lxc6
   5+	00:00	      24.541	0	+0.66	Kb1 Sf4 Df1 e4 dxe4 Dxe4+ Lc2
   5	00:00	      26.250	0	+0.70	Kb1 Sf4 Df1 e4 Sd4
   5+	00:00	      37.142	0	+0.71	Dd2 Sf4 Sg5 Ta8
   5	00:00	      38.770	0	+0.75	Dd2 Sf4 Sg5 h6 Se4 Sxg2 Lxa7
   5+	00:00	      44.953	0	+0.76	Df1 Sf4 Sg5 Dd6
   5	00:00	      46.541	0	+0.77	Df1 a5 Th2 a4 Lc4
   6	00:00	      77.158	0	+0.71	Df1 a5 Dg1 Sf4 Dh2 h6
   6+	00:00	      99.045	0	+0.72	Dd2 a5 Tde1 Dc4
   6	00:01	     117.896	0	+0.79	Dd2 a5 Dc2 a4 g4
   6+	00:01	     137.747	0	+0.80	Kb1 Sf4 Df1 e4 Sg5 h5
   6	00:01	     141.271	0	+0.81	Kb1 a5 Lc2 Sf4 Tdf1
   7	00:01	     283.934	73.685	+0.87	Kb1 Sf4 a3 a5 Lc4 Sxe2
   8-	00:02	     505.433	73.685	+0.82	Kb1 Sf4 a3 a5 Df1 h6 a4
   8	00:03	     652.187	208.420	+0.63	Kb1 Sf4 Dd2 h6 Se1 Lf5
   8+	00:04	     745.267	208.420	+0.64	Dd2 a5 Tde1 Sf4 Sg5 Se6 Lxe6 Txe6
   8	00:04	     892.082	208.420	+0.69	Dd2 h5 Th4 Sc5 Lxc5 Dxc5 Te1 Lc6
   8+	00:05	   1.059.827	186.735	+0.70	Df1 a5 Lc4 b5 g4 bxc4 dxc4
   8	00:06	   1.067.484	186.735	+0.71	Df1 h5 Sh4 Kh7 g4 Sc5 gxh5 Sxb3+ axb3
   9	00:10	   2.071.843	225.233	+0.71	Df1 h5 Sh4 Kh7 g4 Sc5 gxh5 Sxb3+ axb3
   9+	00:14	   2.912.962	223.224	+0.72	Dc2 a5 d4 Sf4 Sg5 Sd5 Lxd5 b6
   9+	00:15	   3.160.041	203.441	+0.76	Dc2 a5 d4 Sf4 Sg5 Db6 Sxh7 g5
   9+	00:17	   3.456.633	203.441	+0.82	Dc2 a5 d4 Sf4 Sg5 Dxg2 Sxh7 Le6
   9	00:17	   3.519.495	214.069	+0.83	Dc2 Sf4 Sg5 h5 g3 Sd5 Se4 Sxe3 Tdg1
  10-	00:21	   4.456.245	245.812	+0.82	Dc2 Sf4 Sg5 h5 g3 Sd5 Se4 Sxe3 Dd2
  10-	00:28	   6.133.135	204.741	+0.80	Dc2 Tf5 Lxe6 Lxe6 Sg5 Lg8 g4 Tff8 f3
  10	00:30	   6.398.365	206.673	+0.79	Dc2 Tf5 Kb1 Sf4 g4 Tff8 Sg5 a5 f3 Db5
  10+	00:55	  12.133.996	221.211	+0.80	Lh6 Sd4 Lxg7+ Kxg7 De3 Sxb3+ axb3 Kg8
Sxe5 Dxg2 Dh6 Te7 Th2 Df3
  10+	00:57	  12.468.171	221.211	+0.82	Lh6 Sd4 Lxg7+ Kxg7 De3 Sxb3+ axb3 Kg8
  10+	01:00	  13.141.048	233.126	+0.84	Lh6 Sd4 Lxg7+ Kxg7 De3 Sxb3+ axb3 Kg8
  10+	01:01	  13.432.586	217.430	+0.86	Lh6 Sd4 Lxg7+ Kxg7 De3 Sxb3+ axb3 Kg8
Sxe5 Dd5 Dh6 Lg4 Sxg4
  10+	01:03	  13.764.285	217.430	+0.88	Lh6 Sd4 Lxg7+ Kxg7 De3 Sxb3+ axb3 Kg8
Sxe5 Dd6 d4 Df6
  10+	01:05	  14.187.312	225.271	+0.90	Lh6 Sd4 Lxg7+ Kxg7 De3 Sxb3+ axb3 Le6
Sxe5 Dxg2 Dh6+ Kf6 f4
  10+	01:06	  14.502.804	221.786	+0.92	Lh6 Sd4 Lxg7+ Kxg7 De3 Sxb3+ axb3 Le6
Sxe5 Dxg2 Dh6+ Kf6 f4 c6
  10+	01:08	  14.880.734	226.763	+0.94	Lh6 Sd4 Lxg7+ Kxg7 De3 Sxb3+ axb3 Le6
Sxe5 a5 Sxc6 bxc6
  10	01:09	  15.211.872	223.506	+0.95	Lh6 Sf4 De3 Df6 Lxg7+ Dxg7 g3 Sg2 De2 c5
  11+	01:26	  19.028.307	218.430	+0.96	Lh6 Sf4 De3
  11	01:28	  19.466.069	208.680	+0.97	Lh6 Sf4 De3 Db6 Sg5 Lxh6 Txh6 Dxe3+ fxe3
Se2+ Kb1 Tf6 Lf7 Tf8
  12-	02:27	  33.851.282	272.545	+0.96	Lh6 Sc5 Lxg7+ Kxg7 De3 Sxb3+
  12-	02:44	  37.727.072	223.324	+0.94	Lh6 Sd4 Sxd4 exd4 Tde1
  12	02:45	  37.987.146	223.324	+0.93	Lh6 Sd4 Lxg7+ Kxg7 De3 Sxb3+ axb3 Kg8 Dxa7
b6 Tdg1
  13+	08:44	 124.268.029	244.120	+0.94	Lh6 Lxh6+




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