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Subject: Re: Pro Deo [clear hash table always/never]

Author: Joachim Rang

Date: 01:47:52 11/16/04

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On November 16, 2004 at 04:38:57, Günther Simon wrote:

>On November 16, 2004 at 03:16:35, Joachim Rang wrote:
>
>>On November 16, 2004 at 01:46:47, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>
>>>On November 15, 2004 at 15:42:01, Albert Silver wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 15, 2004 at 13:37:01, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Nunn2 match (60m+10s) 40 games
>>>>>Pro Deo 1.0 vs Fritz 8.0.0.26
>>>>>http://www.utzingerk.com/pro_deo.htm
>>>>>
>>>>>A little test should show the influence of the option [clear hash table =
>>>>>always] and [clear hash table = never]. Below the result against Fritz 8 as Pro
>>>>>Deo had the worst result against this engine:
>>>>>
>>>>>Option [Clear Hash Table = Always]
>>>>>PD = 32.5 %
>>>>>13.0 - 27.0
>>>>>
>>>>>[Clear Hash Table = Never]
>>>>>PD = 36,2 %
>>>>>14.5 - 25.5
>>>>
>>>>I ran some Nunn2 blitz matches as you know, with and without, and the results
>>>>were not clear. Against Aristarch and Ruffian the results were better, and
>>>>against List, PD scored 1 point less.
>>>>
>>>>                                          Albert
>>>
>>>
>>>      Hi Albert
>>>      Is it worth to replay all remaining 280 games
>>>      at time control 60m+10s with clear hash table
>>>      = never http://www.utzingerk.com/pro_deo.htm
>>>      Kurt
>>
>>
>>why should clear Hash Table = Never be an improvement? ProDeo looses important
>>information when it clears the hashtable? Why is this option tested? Did Ed
>>mention that he is not clear whether it helps or not?
>>
>>regards Joachim
>
>Hi Joachim,
>
>You sure meant 'clear hash table = always' in your statement above?
>The reason for not using that option is that ProDeo seems to have some
>kind of hashtable bug and sometimes plays weird blunder moves from
>the hashtable. (users reported such blunders here)
>I have experienced such blunders too in RWBC so far, nevertheless I still
>use 'never', as Ed suggested this in relief that the overall success
>should be better, even with some occasional big blunders.
>
>Best regards,
>Günther


Yes Günther you are right. I confused Never/Always. The only think I can imagine
clearing the hashtables should help is if there is a bug, like you Uri and other
mentioned. I didn't know that there are suspicions of such a bug in Rebel.

regards Joachim



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