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Subject: Re: My big beef about levels.

Author: John Coffey

Date: 11:17:48 01/16/99

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On January 15, 1999 at 20:24:33, Reynolds Takata wrote:

>On January 15, 1999 at 20:09:45, John Coffey wrote:
>
>>Ah the good old days when you could play a chess computer and
>>move from level 1 up to level 2 etc.  Today most programs don't
>>have levels per se.  In fact most just let you set the time control.
>>This usually means that the program will stomp everybody under
>>2000 even when you set it to 1 second per move.
>>
>>Frizt tries to solve this problem by setting the rating.  The lowest
>>rating seems to be about 1450, and when I tried to play a tournament
>>game against it I got stomped.  Others have had the same experience.
>>
>>John Coffey
>
>
>Hmm the ratings of Rebel and Fritz/J5 seem to be pretty accurate to me.  If You
>can't beat Fritz at 1450, all i can say is hit the books, or play more
>tournaments.  The Ratings of the lower rated personalities in CM6000 are bogus,
>the 1800 is more like 1350 USCF the stronger ones however above 2000 are a
>different story.  Hiarcs 7 well i have no idea how it's supposed to figure a
>rating for you, it might as well not even be an option there.
>
>R Takata
>USCF Life Master
>Fide Master


Hmmm, I Just tied for third in the Utah Open Chess Championship.  True my
rating is only about 1925, but I beat one master, one expert and drew another
expert.

Fritz 5 when set to play a game/60 at the low rating will still take maybe
2 or even 3 seconds per move on my PC.  That might not sound like much, but
this program could probably beat most grandmasters at bullet chess.  I would
think that any GM could play bullet chess as well or better than I can
play regular tournament chess.  (Based upon what I have seen on ICC, this
may be true.)

Some of my friends have had a chance to play Fritz 5 slow games at the low
rating, and everybody seems to think that it plays much stronger than its
rating.

At least I seem to have a chance when I play it speed chess.  Based upon my
speed chess play, the program has assigned me a rating of 1480 :-)

My experience with playing fritz at slow chess is only based upon losing one
game.  But the program did seem to play pretty strong, and this is not what
I would expect from the 1450 setting.

John Coffey



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