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Subject: Re: Proud CT14 owner

Author: James T. Walker

Date: 11:20:09 11/17/04

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On November 17, 2004 at 05:34:02, Uri Blass wrote:

>On November 16, 2004 at 21:08:19, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On November 16, 2004 at 20:37:09, Wayne Lowrance wrote:
>>
>>>Being a proud owner of Chess Tiger 14, it pains me to observe posting results
>>>here of Tiger 2004. It seems after a long pause since Tiger 15 that Tiger 2004
>>>is not performing, so far, as well as I would have hoped.
>>>I passed on buying Tiger 15 waiting for Tiger 16 (2004 , guess) and now I dont
>>>expect to buy this version of Tiger for the present time being.
>>>Very sad 4 me because Gambit tiger was/is a fun engine...
>>>With respect and not wishing to harm Christopher.
>>
>>From the sound of it, it is a complete redesign.
>>I have ordered a copy (which comes with Chess Assistant 8).
>>I expect to watch how it plays, to see how much I enjoy it.
>>
>>I expect big things from Christophe.  He has a much faster NPS now, and so he
>>has more slack to play with than before.
>
>
>I think that nodes per second are irrelevant here.
>
>Being twice faster is not more than 50 elo at the ssdf time control and the gap
>between shredder and tiger is clearly bigger.
>
>
>
>  This is an engine that may challenge
>>Shredder before long.  Sometimes, a step sizeways (or even backwards) is
>>necessary before we can take a big step forwards.
>
>I do not expect it to challenge shredder.
>It may be better than shredder8 after enough time but shredder also gets better.
>
>Uri

The problem I see is that it's 2 times faster (Nps) but not 50 Elo stronger.  In
fact at blitz time control G/5min it is showing only about 10 Elo higher than
Chess Tiger 15 after over 600 games.  If you increase the speed by a factor of 2
and do nothing else you should get a better improvement than what is showing up
in my test.
Jim



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