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Subject: Re: draw by insufficient material

Author: milix

Date: 05:46:37 11/18/04

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On November 17, 2004 at 13:35:16, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On November 17, 2004 at 08:39:40, milix wrote:
>
>>On November 17, 2004 at 08:27:47, Jan K. wrote:
>>
>>>Under winboard/arena which of the following positions should be claimed(/can be
>>>claimed) as drawn by insufficient material-KBKN, KBKNN, KNNKNN? I thought that
>>>KBKN can be claimed as a draw, but once this position happened under Fritz GUI,
>>>my engine claimed draw and stopped playing but GUI still expected me to move and
>>>my engine lost on time. Thx.
>>
>>[D] knB5/8/1K6/8/8/8/8/8 w - - 0 1
>>
>>White to move and mate in one - so this position is not a draw. The king is in
>>the wrong corner.
>
>
>Fine, but what was black's last move?
>
>Had to be the knight.  Which could only have come from a6 or c6 otherwise it
>would have captured the white king.  Therefore there was a forced draw one move
>earlier, where black left the knight on a6/c6 and moved his king instead.
>
>It's a draw.

Hi Robert.

The specific position is obviously not a draw. White has a mate. The position
before it was an even position. In KNNvsK, KBvsKN, with best defence there might
be no mate but if a mate is possible then we have no draw by the rules. The
rules say nothing about best defences.

[D] k1B5/8/1Kn5/4Q3/8/8/8/8 w - - 0 1

White plays 1. Qb8+ and black responds Nxb8 and claims a draw. Is his claim
correct? (his claim and not his play)



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