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Subject: Re: Amendment to my Opinion Poll Question

Author: Don Dailey

Date: 13:57:41 01/16/99

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On January 15, 1999 at 20:51:22, Micheal Cummings wrote:

>
>On January 15, 1999 at 19:01:03, KarinsDad wrote:
>
>>On January 15, 1999 at 17:28:58, Don Dailey wrote:
>>
>>>On January 15, 1999 at 11:17:49, KarinsDad wrote:
>>>
>>>>On January 15, 1999 at 10:20:29, KarinsDad wrote:
>>>>
>>>>The original #3 below muddied the issue a little, so I'll change the question to
>>>>the following:
>>>>
>>>>If given a choice, which one of the following would you prefer:
>>>>
>>>>1) All moderating and CCC politics topics are fair game on the message board
>>>>since how the club is run is also important.
>>>>2) All moderating and CCC politics topics are off topic and should be deleted
>>>>from the message board.
>>>>3) There should be a separate message board for all moderating and CCC politics
>>>>topics and if someone posts a message to the main board on this, it will be
>>>>moved to the Politics message board. If a separate message board is not
>>>>feasible, then I pick #1 above.
>>>>4) There should be a separate message board for all moderating and CCC politics
>>>>topics and if someone posts a message to the main board on this, it will be
>>>>moved to the Politics message board. If a separate message board is not
>>>>feasible, then I pick #2 above.
>>>>5) There should be a separate message board for all moderating and CCC politics
>>>>topics and if someone posts a message to the main board on this, it will be
>>>>moved to the Politics message board. If a separate message board is not
>>>>feasible, then I abstain.
>>>>6) I abstain.
>>>>
>>>
>>>I hope your question does not get put up.  I would prefer the group
>>>de-emphasizes this issue and focus on chess, which is the one thing
>>>we are guaranteed to have in common.
>>>
>>>This is just my opinion and I respect yours, but I just don't want
>>>to talk about miscellaneous stuff and politics.
>>>
>>>- Don
>>
>>Don,
>>
>>So does that mean your answer is #2 or #6?
>>
>>Boy, you and I hardly ever seem to agree on anything.
>>
>>KarinsDad
>
>
>I suggested a while ago that we need to make the rules more clear. There has to
>be a forum where we can talk about Moderation, the charter, and any regualtions
>of CCC, and that is within CCC

I think we have a very good system in place that is quite appropriate
for the type of group we are.  You choose your moderators every 6 months,
if you don't like them you vote them out in 6 months.   Anything more
complicated than this is totally unapropriate and would do it a great
deal of harm.  I don't intend to follow a long list of your rules
and regulations either, let's just keep it simple.  I didn't come here
for this kind of nonsense, I came here to relax.


>Moderators also need to be moderated other wise we end up not with moderators
>but Dictators who answer to no one. I think this need to be fixed up now and not
>let carry on further without any firm action being taken.

Who will moderate the moderators of the moderators?  Come on,  this group
is simple and doesn't  need more policemen.

I'm sick and tired of the constant dictator speech.  Our moderators are
not dictators and have no significant power.  All they can do is remove
a post or excuse a member on a group that is sponsored by a commercial
interest and who ALWAYS has final say anyway.  Any complicated governement
you would like to set up is just pretend anyway and only has the power
ICD chooses (and has the right) to give it.  But who is going to control
their power to dictate you'll probably ask next.


>I read the election posts from the three moderators and they seems to indicate
>that they would not be strict. Well I see they take my view and are running this
>forum with an iron dictator fist.

By removing someones post?  Give me a break.

>So if you will do nothing then that is what you all shall have on here, and if
>will have to be accepted by all. Or you can revolt and remove the moderators and
>have fresh elections.

Hello?  I thought ICD made these decisions.  Are you going to approach
the homes of the moderators and oust them from power by force in the
name of righteousness?   Chill out please.


>If there is enough complaint about moderation then a poll has to be taken
>whether or not to elect new ones. Otherwise CCC will crumble to the ground like
>the Fall of Rome.
>
>We must act and we must act NOW !!!!!!!  :-)

What are you going to actually do?

- Don



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