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Subject: Re: Good news

Author: George Tsavdaris

Date: 04:18:28 11/19/04

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On November 19, 2004 at 03:01:33, David Dahlem wrote:

>On November 18, 2004 at 17:22:10, Dimitris Poulos wrote:
>
>>On November 18, 2004 at 16:08:34, Ingo Bauer wrote:
>>
>>>... which is evaluating this as drawish.
>>>
>>>[D]8/p1K5/6Bk/PP5P/8/8/5b2/8 w - -
>>>
>>>I dont think that it is possible to do it in search. Is there a possibility to
>>>do it with a "rule" or knowledge?
>>>
>>>Easy for a human!
>>>
>>>Bye
>>>Ingo
>>
>>Smarthink is.
>>
>>Dimitris
>
>SmarThink v0.17a default settings does NOT evaluate this a drawish!!
>
>FEN: 8/p1K5/6Bk/PP5P/8/8/5b2/8 w - - 0 1
>
>SmarThink v0.17a:
>
>   7	00:00	      12.147	1.781	+1.22	1.a6 Bc5 2.Kc6 Bd4 3.Kd6
>   7	00:00	      13.984	2.050	+1.22	1.a6 Bc5
>   7	00:00	      14.818	2.172	+1.23	1.Kc6 Bd4 2.a6 Be3 3.Kd6 Bd4 4.Kc6 Be3 5.Kd6
>Bd4 6.Kc6 Be3 7.Kd6 Bd4 8.Kc6 Be3 9.Kd6 Bd4 10.Kc6 Be3 11.Kd6
>   7	00:00	      15.119	2.216	+1.23	1.Kc6
>   8	00:00	      26.297	3.827	+1.24	1.Kc6
>   8	00:00	      26.583	3.869	+1.24	1.Kc6
>   9	00:00	      42.683	6.168	+1.24	1.Kc6 Bd4 2.a6 Be3 3.Kd5 Bb6
>   9	00:00	      42.683	6.168	+1.24	1.Kc6 Bd4 2.a6 Be3 3.Kd5 Bb6
>  10	00:00	     116.919	16.238	+1.24	1.Kc6 Bd4 2.a6 Be3 3.Kd5 Bb6 4.Kd6 Bd4
>5.Kc6 Be3 6.Kd5 Bb6 7.Kd6 Bd4 8.Kc6 Be3 9.Kd5 Bb6 10.Kd6 Bd4 11.Kc6
>  10	00:00	     116.919	16.238	+1.24	1.Kc6 Bd4 2.a6 Be3 3.Kd5 Bb6 4.Kd6 Bd4
>5.Kc6 Be3 6.Kd5 Bb6 7.Kd6 Bd4 8.Kc6 Be3 9.Kd5 Bb6 10.Kd6 Bd4
>  11	00:01	     221.105	29.363	+1.24	1.Kc6 Bd4 2.a6 Be3 3.Kd5 Bb6 4.Kd6 Bd4
>5.Kc6 Be3 6.Kd5 Bb6 7.Kd6 Bd4 8.Kc6 Be3 9.Kd5 Bb6 10.Kd6 Bd4 11.Kc6
>  11	00:01	     221.105	29.363	+1.24	1.Kc6 Bd4 2.a6 Be3 3.Kd5 Bb6 4.Kd6 Bd4
>5.Kc6 Be3 6.Kd5 Bb6 7.Kd6 Bd4 8.Kc6 Be3 9.Kd5 Bb6 10.Kd6 Bd4
>  12	00:02	     534.491	62.733	+1.24	1.Kc6 Bd4 2.a6 Be3 3.Kd5 Bb6 4.Kd6 Bd4
>5.Kc6 Be3 6.Kd5 Bb6 7.Kd6 Bd4 8.Kc6 Be3 9.Kd5 Bb6 10.Kd6 Bd4 11.Kc6
>  12	00:02	     534.491	62.733	+1.24	1.Kc6 Bd4 2.a6 Be3 3.Kd5 Bb6 4.Kd6 Bd4
>5.Kc6 Be3 6.Kd5 Bb6 7.Kd6 Bd4 8.Kc6 Be3 9.Kd5 Bb6 10.Kd6 Bd4
>  13	00:03	   1.100.418	107.044	+1.24	1.Kc6 Bd4 2.a6 Be3 3.Kd5 Bb6 4.Kd6 Bd4
>5.Kd5 Bf6 6.b6 axb6 7.Ke6 Kg7
>  13	00:03	   1.100.418	107.044	+1.24	1.Kc6 Bd4 2.a6 Be3 3.Kd5 Bb6 4.Kd6 Bd4
>5.Kd5 Bf6 6.b6 axb6 7.Ke6 Kg7
>  14	00:08	   2.710.530	309.068	+1.23	1.Kc6 Bd4 2.a6 Bb6 3.Kd5 Ba5
>  14	00:09	   2.838.372	304.546	+1.23	1.Kc6 Bd4 2.a6 Bb6 3.Kd5 Ba5 4.Ke6
>  15	00:17	   5.608.598	314.207	+1.23	1.Kc6 Bd4 2.a6 Bb6 3.Kd5 Ba5 4.Ke6 Kg7
>5.Bf7 Bb6 6.Bg6 Kh6
>  15	00:17	   5.608.598	314.207	+1.23	1.Kc6 Bd4 2.a6 Bb6 3.Kd5 Ba5 4.Ke6 Kg7
>5.Bf7 Bb6 6.Bg6 Kh6
>  16	00:33	  10.457.874	314.522	+1.23	1.Kc6 Bd4 2.a6 Bb6 3.Kd5 Ba5 4.Ke6 Kg7
>5.Bf7 Bb6 6.Be8 Kh6 7.Bg6 Bc5 8.Kd5 Bb6 9.Kd6 Ba5
>  16	00:33	  10.457.874	314.522	+1.23	1.Kc6 Bd4 2.a6 Bb6 3.Kd5 Ba5 4.Ke6 Kg7
>5.Bf7 Bb6 6.Be8 Kh6 7.Bg6 Bc5 8.Kd5 Bb6 9.Kd6 Ba5
>

 Actually, for an experienced Chess-engine user like you, it is easy to see that
when having a specific "small" score for many plies up to 16, which doesn't
change at all, then the position is most probably a draw if we are talking for
an edngame. (Smarthink finds the draw but it's materialistic DNA, prevents it
from showing a zero score.)



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