Author: David Dahlem
Date: 07:16:11 11/19/04
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On November 19, 2004 at 07:18:28, George Tsavdaris wrote: >On November 19, 2004 at 03:01:33, David Dahlem wrote: > >>On November 18, 2004 at 17:22:10, Dimitris Poulos wrote: >> >>>On November 18, 2004 at 16:08:34, Ingo Bauer wrote: >>> >>>>... which is evaluating this as drawish. >>>> >>>>[D]8/p1K5/6Bk/PP5P/8/8/5b2/8 w - - >>>> >>>>I dont think that it is possible to do it in search. Is there a possibility to >>>>do it with a "rule" or knowledge? >>>> >>>>Easy for a human! >>>> >>>>Bye >>>>Ingo >>> >>>Smarthink is. >>> >>>Dimitris >> >>SmarThink v0.17a default settings does NOT evaluate this a drawish!! >> >>FEN: 8/p1K5/6Bk/PP5P/8/8/5b2/8 w - - 0 1 >> >>SmarThink v0.17a: >> >> 7 00:00 12.147 1.781 +1.22 1.a6 Bc5 2.Kc6 Bd4 3.Kd6 >> 7 00:00 13.984 2.050 +1.22 1.a6 Bc5 >> 7 00:00 14.818 2.172 +1.23 1.Kc6 Bd4 2.a6 Be3 3.Kd6 Bd4 4.Kc6 Be3 5.Kd6 >>Bd4 6.Kc6 Be3 7.Kd6 Bd4 8.Kc6 Be3 9.Kd6 Bd4 10.Kc6 Be3 11.Kd6 >> 7 00:00 15.119 2.216 +1.23 1.Kc6 >> 8 00:00 26.297 3.827 +1.24 1.Kc6 >> 8 00:00 26.583 3.869 +1.24 1.Kc6 >> 9 00:00 42.683 6.168 +1.24 1.Kc6 Bd4 2.a6 Be3 3.Kd5 Bb6 >> 9 00:00 42.683 6.168 +1.24 1.Kc6 Bd4 2.a6 Be3 3.Kd5 Bb6 >> 10 00:00 116.919 16.238 +1.24 1.Kc6 Bd4 2.a6 Be3 3.Kd5 Bb6 4.Kd6 Bd4 >>5.Kc6 Be3 6.Kd5 Bb6 7.Kd6 Bd4 8.Kc6 Be3 9.Kd5 Bb6 10.Kd6 Bd4 11.Kc6 >> 10 00:00 116.919 16.238 +1.24 1.Kc6 Bd4 2.a6 Be3 3.Kd5 Bb6 4.Kd6 Bd4 >>5.Kc6 Be3 6.Kd5 Bb6 7.Kd6 Bd4 8.Kc6 Be3 9.Kd5 Bb6 10.Kd6 Bd4 >> 11 00:01 221.105 29.363 +1.24 1.Kc6 Bd4 2.a6 Be3 3.Kd5 Bb6 4.Kd6 Bd4 >>5.Kc6 Be3 6.Kd5 Bb6 7.Kd6 Bd4 8.Kc6 Be3 9.Kd5 Bb6 10.Kd6 Bd4 11.Kc6 >> 11 00:01 221.105 29.363 +1.24 1.Kc6 Bd4 2.a6 Be3 3.Kd5 Bb6 4.Kd6 Bd4 >>5.Kc6 Be3 6.Kd5 Bb6 7.Kd6 Bd4 8.Kc6 Be3 9.Kd5 Bb6 10.Kd6 Bd4 >> 12 00:02 534.491 62.733 +1.24 1.Kc6 Bd4 2.a6 Be3 3.Kd5 Bb6 4.Kd6 Bd4 >>5.Kc6 Be3 6.Kd5 Bb6 7.Kd6 Bd4 8.Kc6 Be3 9.Kd5 Bb6 10.Kd6 Bd4 11.Kc6 >> 12 00:02 534.491 62.733 +1.24 1.Kc6 Bd4 2.a6 Be3 3.Kd5 Bb6 4.Kd6 Bd4 >>5.Kc6 Be3 6.Kd5 Bb6 7.Kd6 Bd4 8.Kc6 Be3 9.Kd5 Bb6 10.Kd6 Bd4 >> 13 00:03 1.100.418 107.044 +1.24 1.Kc6 Bd4 2.a6 Be3 3.Kd5 Bb6 4.Kd6 Bd4 >>5.Kd5 Bf6 6.b6 axb6 7.Ke6 Kg7 >> 13 00:03 1.100.418 107.044 +1.24 1.Kc6 Bd4 2.a6 Be3 3.Kd5 Bb6 4.Kd6 Bd4 >>5.Kd5 Bf6 6.b6 axb6 7.Ke6 Kg7 >> 14 00:08 2.710.530 309.068 +1.23 1.Kc6 Bd4 2.a6 Bb6 3.Kd5 Ba5 >> 14 00:09 2.838.372 304.546 +1.23 1.Kc6 Bd4 2.a6 Bb6 3.Kd5 Ba5 4.Ke6 >> 15 00:17 5.608.598 314.207 +1.23 1.Kc6 Bd4 2.a6 Bb6 3.Kd5 Ba5 4.Ke6 Kg7 >>5.Bf7 Bb6 6.Bg6 Kh6 >> 15 00:17 5.608.598 314.207 +1.23 1.Kc6 Bd4 2.a6 Bb6 3.Kd5 Ba5 4.Ke6 Kg7 >>5.Bf7 Bb6 6.Bg6 Kh6 >> 16 00:33 10.457.874 314.522 +1.23 1.Kc6 Bd4 2.a6 Bb6 3.Kd5 Ba5 4.Ke6 Kg7 >>5.Bf7 Bb6 6.Be8 Kh6 7.Bg6 Bc5 8.Kd5 Bb6 9.Kd6 Ba5 >> 16 00:33 10.457.874 314.522 +1.23 1.Kc6 Bd4 2.a6 Bb6 3.Kd5 Ba5 4.Ke6 Kg7 >>5.Bf7 Bb6 6.Be8 Kh6 7.Bg6 Bc5 8.Kd5 Bb6 9.Kd6 Ba5 >> > > Actually, for an experienced Chess-engine user like you, it is easy to see that >when having a specific "small" score for many plies up to 16, which doesn't >change at all, then the position is most probably a draw if we are talking for >an edngame. (Smarthink finds the draw but it's materialistic DNA, prevents it >from showing a zero score.) A draw score is 0.00 as evaluated by engines. It's not up to the user to read the mind of an engine and interpret something different than the engines evaluation. An evaluation of +1.23 certainly can not be interpreted as a draw score!! Regards Dave
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