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Subject: Re: ICD and Google (problem with double domain name ?)

Author: Steven Schwartz

Date: 08:39:06 11/21/04

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On November 21, 2004 at 04:18:12, Rémi Coulom wrote:

>On November 21, 2004 at 04:04:44, Rémi Coulom wrote:
>
>>On November 20, 2004 at 21:37:12, Steven Schwartz wrote:
>>
>>Hi Steve,
>>
>>I noticed that the old "www.icdchess.com" redirects to the new
>>"www.chessusa.com". I wonder if that could be the cause of a big loss in google
>>ranking system. There are lots of links that point to icdchess. Are you 100%
>>sure that those links are counted by google as links to www.chessusa.com ? If I
>>were you, I would try to replace all those links to icdchess to links to
>>chessusa. You could start by changing the links on talkchess.com, for instance,
>>that all point to icdchess. You can find those links by typing the request
>>"link:http://www.icdchess.com". Yahoo returns many more results than Google.
>>
>>Also, I have been told that Google gives a bonus to old domain names. But that
>>may be a wrong rumor, like many theories about Google's algorithms.
>>
>>Did you notice a correlation between your drop in Google rankings and your
>>change of domain name ?
>>
>>I hope this helps.
>>
>>Rémi
>
>Also, Google's advice to webmaster is:
>
>"Don't create multiple pages, subdomains, or domains with substantially
>duplicate content."
>
>This is strongly penalized, according to what I have been told. If at one point
>you had your web site duplicated on the two domains, that may have been the
>cause of a big penalty.
>
>Rémi



Remi,
Thanks for the advise on the Talkchess links. We had forgotten all about them.
As soon as we get a chance, we will change them to chessusa.com.

We surmise that we made an error a few years ago when we decided to acquire
the name ChessaUSA.com. We did it because, even though we had a huge following
for icdchess because we were around so long, we wanted new customers to have a
name more easily remembered.

So we parked the ChessUSA name to our icdchess site, but it appears now that
Google frowns on that because of the duplicate content. So, we now have a
permanent 301 redirect which, according to people who are supposed to know these
things, makes it acceptable to the Google search.

Now we show up if you type in chessusa or chessusa.com (we didn't show up at all
about 4 months ago), but our rankings for any of the terms that people would use
like "chess sets", "chess boards", "chess software", etc are horrendous. We
can't seem to move up the ladder.

We are hoping our plea to the CCC and CTF will result in some links to
chessusa.com and will move us into a better position.
Steve



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