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Subject: Re: Is this legal?

Author: Daniel Jackson

Date: 16:10:31 11/21/04

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On November 21, 2004 at 06:22:21, George Tsavdaris wrote:

>On November 21, 2004 at 04:05:10, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>
>>On November 21, 2004 at 02:42:00, Dan Andersson wrote:
>>
>>> If the flag is down it's the truth. But you can stop the clock before and call
>>>for arbitration. Then the criterion 'win with normal means' is used. IMO a
>>>hoplessly vague definition. There should be clear guidelines that do not depend
>>>on subjective decisions.
>>> I was  an arbiter during the last years national championship. There will be an
>>>addition to the quickplay finish rules from 1 July 2005. It adds the opportunity
>>>to draw a flagged game:
>>>
>>> Article 10.2b:
>>> If the arbiter postpones his decision, the opponent may be awarded two extra
>>>minutes and the game shall continue in the presence of an arbiter, if possible.
>>>The arbiter shall declare the final result later in the game or after a flag has
>>>fallen. He shall declare the game drawn if he agrees that the final position
>>>cannot be won by normal means, or that the opponent was not making sufficient
>>>attempts to win by normal means.
>>>
>>>MvH Dan Andersson
>>
>>Well if helpmates are the rule, I disagree. I wouldn't except that, but then I'd
>>call the arbiter before this could happen anyway.
>>
>>IMO it's Insufficient Material.
>
>No it isn't. Since black can checkmate white it is not a draw and if white loses
>on time this is the result of the game. Black wins.

No Black can't, only White can help Black checkmate. It would be called a
Helpmate, that is why it should be a draw, IMO.



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