Author: Eduard Nemeth
Date: 09:26:49 11/24/04
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On November 24, 2004 at 01:27:40, John Merlino wrote:
>On November 24, 2004 at 00:21:15, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>
>>At This moment I played on Playchess.com against Deep Fritz 8 an 15m + 2s game.
>>Trhe Operator was ok.
>>
>>Here the game:
>>
>>[Event "Wertungspartie, 15m + 2s"]
>>[Site "Maschinenraum"]
>>[Date "2004.11.24"]
>>[Round "?"]
>>[White "EduardNemeth"]
>>[Black "Bloodymagicians, Deep Fritz 8"]
>>[Result "1/2-1/2"]
>>[ECO "B23"]
>>[BlackElo "2384"]
>>[Annotator "Nemeth,Eduard"]
>>[PlyCount "51"]
>>[EventDate "2004.11.24"]
>>[TimeControl "900+2"]
>>
>>1. e4 {1} c5 {Deep Fritz 8 on Authentic AMD, Ply12,9, 311 Kn/s, 1 Thread. 0} 2.
>>Nc3 {32} d6 {0} 3. g3 {2} Nc6 {0} 4. d3 {2} g6 {0} 5. Bd2 {1} Bg7 {-0.20/10 30}
>>6. Bg2 {2} Nf6 {0} 7. f3 {2} O-O {-0.39/11 30} 8. Nge2 {1} d5 {-0.38/11 37} 9.
>>Qc1 {3} d4 {-0.40/11 28} 10. Nd1 {2} Be6 {-0.32/12 37} 11. b3 {5} Bd7 {
>>-0.46/10 26} 12. O-O {2} Qc7 {-0.39/10 21} 13. Nf2 {10} Rfd8 {-0.35/10 24} 14.
>>a3 {3} a5 {-0.28/11 35} 15. a4 {5} Ra6 {-0.25/11 34} 16. Kh1 {16} Nb4 {
>>-0.32/11 20} 17. Kg1 {17} Re6 {-0.28/11 42} 18. f4 {45} h6 {-0.21/10 27} 19. h3
>>{3} Bc8 {-0.20/10 18} 20. Kh2 {4} Rb6 {-0.20/10 19} 21. Ng1 {23} Nd7 {
>>-0.16/10 24} 22. Nf3 {19} Re6 {-0.02/10 8} 23. Ng1 {7} Rd6 {-0.11/10 18} 24.
>>Nf3 {2} Ra6 {-0.01/9 15} 25. Ng1 {2} Qd6 {-0.11/10 25} 26. Nf3 {
>>(Lag: Av=1.25s, max=4.1s) 8} 1/2-1/2
>>
>>You see, that I can Played against Fritz very good. Or?
>
>An excellent example of how to play for a draw against a top engine. However,
>The King thinks that you might have had an opportunity or two to gain the
>advantage. In particular, here are two examples:
>
>19.f5 gxf5 20.Bxh6 Bxh6 21.Qxh6 Nf4 22.Qg5+ (or Qh4)
>
>23.f5 gxf5 24.exf5 Ra6 25.Bf4 Qb6 26.Nd2! e5 27.fxe6ep Qxe6 28.Re1
>
>Did you consider playing f5?
>
>Otherwise, very well done!
>
>jm
English (Internet translate):
Hello John!
Thanks for your nice statement to my Game.
Yes, I believe also that the ChessMaster this position against Fritz would win.
As humans I have however a problem: I am not a tactics monster (like the
ChessMaster).
By the way: As humans one should play against computers cautiously, also then
if one better stands (except one has completely large advantage). The Engines,
does not play gladly draw against humans, and in the case of the cases the
2-best move would play, as long as they do not see themselves in the
disadvantage like Deep Fritz. Therefore it was also better for me, simply to be
waiting to Deep Fritz 8 something forced - and then counter!
But Deep Fritz 8 did not want, therefore draw for me then also ok one is. :)
Best, Eduard.
German (original):
Hallo John!
Danke für dein nettes Statement zu meinem Game.
Ja, ich glaube auch dass der ChessMaster diese Stellung
Gegen Fritz gewinnen würde.
Als Mensch habe ich jedoch ein Problem:
Ich bin kein Taktikmonster (wie der ChessMaster).
Übrigens: Als Mensch sollte man gegen Computer
Abwartend spielen, auch dann wenn man besser steht
(außer man hat ganz großen Vorteil).
Die Engines nämlich, spielen nicht gerne Remis
gegen Menschen, und würden im Fall der Fälle den
2-best move spielen, solange sie sich nicht im Nachteil
sehen wie Deep Fritz.
Daher ist es für mich auch besser gewesen, einfach abzuwarten
Bis Deep Fritz 8 etwas forciert – und dann kontern!
Aber Deep Fritz 8 wollte nicht, also ist draw für mich dann auch Ok. :)
Best,
Eduard.
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