Author: Rafael Vasquez
Date: 05:42:12 11/26/04
Go up one level in this thread
Dave, Probably strong players are not so good explaining why one
side is winning.
Either with Be3 or Rb2 Black is Lost.
I'posting for you three analisys: 1)On the position 2)On Be3 3)On Rb2
A long analisys on the position using Shredder8 on an AthlonXP3200+ with
830 RAM shows:
[D]5q1k/7p/1p1P1p1b/1Pp5/2Pp4/p2P2PQ/r4B2/4R1K1 b - -
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
8 | |:::| |:::| |*D*| |*R*
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
7 |:::| |:::| |:::| |:::|*P*
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
6 | |*P*| | P | |*P*| |*A*
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
5 |:::| P |*P*| |:::| |:::|
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
4 | |:::| P |*P*| |:::| |:::
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
3 |*P*| |:::| P |:::| | P | D
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
2 |*T*|:::| |:::| | A | |:::
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
1 |:::| |:::| | T | | R |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
a b c d e f g h
Shredder 8
1/02 0:00 -1.15-- 36...Dxd6 37.Dxh6 (2) 0
1/02 0:00 -1.71-- 36...Dxd6 37.Dxh6 (4) 0
1/02 0:00 -1.71 36...Dxd6 37.Dxh6 (6) 0
1/04 0:00 -0.98++ 36...Ae3 37.Axe3 dxe3 38.Txe3 (15) 0
1/04 0:00 +0.21++ 36...Ae3 37.Axe3 dxe3 38.Txe3 (18) 1
1/05 0:00 +1.22 36...Ae3 37.Axe3 dxe3 38.Txe3 Dxd6 (23) 1
2/05 0:00 +1.56++ 36...Ae3 37.Dg2 (116) 3
2/09 0:00 +2.06++ 36...Ae3 37.Axe3 dxe3 38.Txe3 Dxd6 (172) 5
2/09 0:00 +2.06 36...Ae3 37.Axe3 dxe3 38.Txe3 Dxd6 (174) 5
3/05 0:00 +1.75-- 36...Ae3 37.Axe3 dxe3 38.De6 (340) 10
3/05 0:00 +1.75 36...Ae3 37.Axe3 dxe3 38.De6 (445) 13
4/12 0:00 +1.57 36...Ae3 37.Axe3 dxe3 38.De6 Tc2 39.Txe3 (1.121) 35
5/14 0:00 +1.32-- 36...Ae3 37.Axe3 Tg2+ 38.Rxg2 Da8+ 39.Rf2 Dg2+ 40.Dxg2
dxe3+ 41.Txe3 (2.443) 51
5/14 0:00 +0.82-- 36...Ae3 37.Axe3 Tg2+ 38.Rxg2 Da8+ 39.Rf2 Dg2+ 40.Dxg2
dxe3+ 41.Txe3 (2.808) 59
5/14 0:00 +0.27 36...Ae3 37.Axe3 dxe3 38.De6 Tc2 39.De7 Dg7 40.Txe3 (4.660)
99
5/14 0:00 +0.28++ 36...Td2 37.Axd4 cxd4 38.Dc8 (5.794) 91
5/14 0:00 +0.63++ 36...Td2 37.Axd4 cxd4 38.Dc8 Dxc8 (5.940) 94
5/14 0:00 +0.63 36...Td2 37.d7 Txd3 38.d8D Txg3+ 39.Dxg3 (6.646) 105
5/14 0:00 +0.64++ 36...f5 37.d7 Tb2 (7.652) 121
5/14 0:00 +0.64 36...f5 37.d7 Td2 38.d8D Dxd8 39.Dxh6 Txd3 (7.830) 99
5/15 0:00 +0.65++ 36...Tb2 37.Axd4 cxd4 38.Dc8 Dxc8 (10.132) 128
5/15 0:00 +0.65 36...Tb2 37.De6 Tc2 (10.380) 131
6/16 0:00 +0.40-- 36...Tb2 37.d7 Ae3 38.Axe3 dxe3 39.De6 h6 40.Txe3 (17.577)
186
6/16 0:00 -0.09 36...Tb2 37.d7 Ae3 38.Axe3 dxe3 39.De6 Td2 40.Dxe3 Tc2
(20.328) 184
6/16 0:00 -0.08++ 36...Ae3 37.Axe3 dxe3 38.De6 (22.274) 202
6/18 0:00 +0.27++ 36...Ae3 37.Axe3 dxe3 38.De6 e2 39.De7 Rg8 40.Txe2 Txe2
41.d7 Dxe7 (26.324) 210
6/18 0:00 +0.38 36...Ae3 37.Axe3 dxe3 38.De6 e2 39.De7 Rg8 40.De6+ Rg7
41.Dd7+ Df7 42.Dg4+ Dg6 (28.056) 198
6/18 0:00 +0.39++ 36...Td2 37.d7 Ae3 38.Txe3 dxe3 39.Dxh7+ Rxh7 (29.969) 212
6/18 0:00 +0.42 36...Td2 37.De6 Txd3 38.De7 Td2 39.Dc7 (31.667) 224
7/14 0:00 +0.37 36...Td2 37.De6 a2 38.d7 Ae3 39.Axe3 dxe3 40.De8 (45.905)
244
8/17 0:00 +0.12-- 36...Td2 37.De6 a2 38.d7 Rg7 39.Dxb6 Da8 (71.901) 287
8/23 0:00 -0.38-- 36...Td2 37.De6 a2 38.d7 Ae3 39.Axe3 Dg8 40.Axd2 Dxe6
41.Txe6 (90.619) 305
8/29 0:00 -0.61 36...Td2 37.De6 f5 38.d7 Ag5 39.Dxb6 Txd3 40.Te8 Td1+
41.Ae1 (163.851) 349
8/29 0:00 -0.60++ 36...Ae3 37.Axe3 dxe3 38.De6 Dh6 39.De8+ Rg7 40.Dd7+ Rf8
41.De7+ Rg8 42.Dd8+ Rg7 43.Dc7+ Rf8 44.De7+ Rg8 45.Dd8+ Rg7 46.Dc7+ Rf8 47.De7+
Rg8 (202.640) 370
8/29 0:00 -0.25++ 36...Ae3 37.Axe3 dxe3 38.De6 Dh6 39.De8+ Rg7 40.Dd7+ Rf8
41.De7+ Rg8 42.Dd8+ Rg7 43.Dc7+ Rf8 44.De7+ Rg8 45.Dd8+ Rg7 46.Dc7+ Rf8 47.De7+
Rg8 (207.716) 368
8/29 0:00 -0.07 36...Ae3 37.Axe3 dxe3 38.De6 Dh6 39.De8+ Rg7 40.De7+ Rg8
41.Dd8+ Rg7 42.Dc7+ Rf8 43.De7+ Rg8 44.Dd8+ Rg7 45.Dc7+ Rf8 46.De7+ Rg8 47.Dd8+
(222.779) 375
9/27 0:00 -0.06 36...Ae3 37.Axe3 dxe3 38.De6 Dh6 39.De8+ Rg7 40.De7+ Rg8
41.Dd8+ Rg7 42.De7+ Rg8 43.Dd8+ Rg7 44.De7+ Rg8 (308.847) 387
9/27 0:00 -0.05++ 36...Td2 37.De6 (318.026) 391
9/27 0:00 -0.05 36...Td2 37.De6 Txd3 38.d7 Rg7 39.Dxb6 Dd6 40.Dxd6 a2
41.d8D (330.832) 391
10/23 0:01 -0.30-- 36...Td2 37.De6 Txd3 38.d7 Rg7 39.Dxb6 Dd6 40.Dxd6 a2
41.d8D Txg3+ 42.Axg3 (405.932) 393
10/24 0:01 -0.80-- 36...Td2 37.De6 Txd3 38.d7 Rg7 39.Dxb6 Dd6 40.Dxd6 a2
41.d8D Txg3+ 42.Axg3 (431.524) 399
10/35 0:03 -2.06 36...Td2 37.De6 f5 38.d7 Ag5 39.Dxb6 a2 40.Da7 a1T 41.Txa1
Txd3 42.Ta3 Txa3 43.Dxa3 (1.516.290) 445
10/35 0:03 -2.05++ 36...Ae3 37.Axe3 dxe3 38.De6 (1.522.561) 444
10/37 0:03 -1.70++ 36...Ae3 37.Axe3 dxe3 38.De6 Dh6 39.De8+ Rg7 40.De7+ Rg8
41.Dd8+ Rg7 42.Dxf6+ Dxf6 43.Txe3 (1.548.820) 444
10/37 0:03 -0.06 36...Ae3 37.Axe3 dxe3 38.De6 Dh6 39.De8+ Rg7 40.De7+ Rg8
41.Dd8+ Rf7 42.De7+ Rg8 43.Dd8+ Rf7 44.De7+ Rg8 45.Dd8+ (1.632.411) 444
11/35 0:04 -0.06 36...Ae3 37.Axe3 dxe3 38.De6 Dh6 39.De8+ Rg7 40.De7+ Rg8
41.Dd8+ Rf7 42.De7+ Rg8 43.Dd8+ Rf7 44.De7+ Rg8 45.Dd8+ (1.976.079) 445
12/37 0:05 -0.06 36...Ae3 37.Axe3 dxe3 38.De6 Dh6 39.De8+ Rg7 40.De7+ Rg8
41.Dd8+ Rf7 42.De7+ Rg8 43.Dd8+ Rf7 44.De7+ Rg8 45.Dd8+ (2.502.792) 444
13/40 0:08 -0.06 36...Ae3 37.Axe3 dxe3 38.De6 Dh6 39.De8+ Rg7 40.De7+ Rg8
41.Dd8+ Rf7 42.De7+ Rg8 43.Dd8+ Rf7 44.De7+ Rg8 45.Dd8+ (3.858.922) 449
14/42 0:12 -0.06 36...Ae3 37.Axe3 dxe3 38.De6 Dh6 39.De8+ Rg7 40.De7+ Rg8
41.Dd8+ Rf7 42.De7+ Rg8 43.Dd8+ Rf7 44.De7+ Rg8 45.Dd8+ (5.643.768) 451
15/45 0:28 -0.06 36...Ae3 37.Axe3 dxe3 38.De6 Dh6 39.De8+ Rg7 40.De7+ Rg8
41.Dd8+ Rf7 42.De7+ Rg8 43.Dd8+ Rf7 44.De7+ Rg8 45.Dd8+ (13.193.856) 460
16/45 0:52 -0.31-- 36...Ae3 37.Axe3 dxe3 38.d7 Tb2 39.De6 Txb5 40.cxb5 Da8
41.Txe3 a2 42.Dxf6+ Rg8 43.d8T+ Dxd8 44.Dxd8+ Rg7 45.Dxb6 a1T+ 46.Rf2
(24.365.913) 464
16/48 0:57 -0.81-- 36...Ae3 37.Axe3 dxe3 38.d7 Tb2 39.De6 Txb5 40.cxb5 Da8
41.Txe3 a2 42.Dxf6+ Rg8 43.d8T+ Dxd8 44.Dxd8+ Rg7 45.Dxb6 a1T+ 46.Rf2
(26.830.648) 467
16/48 1:40 -5.11 36...Ae3 37.Axe3 dxe3 38.d7 Td2 39.De6 Txd3 40.De8 Dg8
41.Txe3 Td1+ 42.Rh2 a2 43.Ta3 Td2+ 44.Rh3 Txd7 45.Dxd7 f5 46.Txa2 Dxg3+ 47.Rxg3
(48.018.721) 478
16/48 2:38 -5.10++ 36...Tc2 37.De6 Tc1 38.Txc1 Axc1 39.d7 a2 40.Dxb6 a1D
41.d8D Dxd8 42.Dxd8+ Rg7 43.Rh2 (75.182.347) 474
16/48 2:41 -4.75++ 36...Tc2 37.De6 Tc1 38.Txc1 Axc1 39.d7 a2 40.Dxb6 a1D
41.d8D Dxd8 42.Dxd8+ Rg7 43.Rh2 Da2 44.Dxd4 (76.922.385) 476
16/48 3:03 -2.50 36...Tc2 37.De6 Tc1 38.Txc1 Axc1 39.d7 a2 40.Dxb6 a1D
41.d8D Dxd8 42.Dxd8+ Rg7 43.Rg2 Da2 44.De7+ Rg6 45.De8+ Rg7 46.Dd7+ Rg6 47.Dg4+
Ag5 48.De4+ Rh6 49.De7 Da8+ (88.004.243) 480
16/50 3:20 -2.49++ 36...Tb2 37.d7 a2 38.Dxh6 Dxh6 39.d8D+ Rg7 40.Dxb6 Dd2
41.Db7+ Rh6 42.Dh1+ Rg7 43.Dxh7+ Rxh7 44.Te7+ Rg6 45.Ae1 (96.199.997) 480
16/50 3:48 -2.14++ 36...Tb2 37.d7 a2 38.Dxh6 Dxh6 39.d8D+ Rg7 40.Dxb6 Dd2
41.Db7+ Rh6 42.Dh1+ Rg7 43.Dxh7+ Rxh7 44.Te7+ Rg6 45.Ae1 a1D 46.Th7 Rxh7 47.b6
(111.876.410) 489
16/50 5:08 -0.89 36...Tb2 37.d7 a2 38.Dxh6 Dxh6 39.d8D+ Rg7 40.De7+ Rg6
41.De4+ Rg7 42.Da8 Dh5 43.Rg2 Df5 44.Te7+ Rh6 45.Df8+ Rh5 46.Df7+ Rg5 47.Dg8+
Dg6 48.Dd5+ Rh6 49.Ta7 Dxd3 (153.377.305) 497
17/41 5:26 -0.89 36...Tb2 37.d7 a2 38.Dxh6 Dxh6 39.d8D+ Rg7 40.De7+ Rg6
41.De4+ Rg7 42.Da8 Dh5 43.Rg2 Df5 44.Te7+ Rh6 45.Df8+ Rh5 46.Df7+ Rg5 47.Dg8+
Dg6 48.Dd5+ Rh6 49.Ta7 Dxd3 (161.924.707) 495
18/52 7:58 -0.65 36...Tb2 37.d7 a2 38.Dxh6 Dxh6 39.d8D+ Rg7 40.Db8 Dh5
41.Rg2 Df5 42.Te7+ Rh6 43.Df8+ Rh5 44.Df7+ Rg5 45.Dg7+ Dg6 46.Ta7 Dxg7 47.Txg7+
Rf5 48.Ta7 Td2 49.Ta3 h5 (235.251.726) 491
19/54 11:48 -0.70 36...Tb2 37.d7 a2 38.Dxh6 Dxh6 39.d8D+ Rg7 40.Db8 Dh5
41.Rg2 Df5 42.Te7+ Rh6 43.Df8+ Rh5 44.Df7+ Rg5 45.Dg7+ Dg6 46.Ta7 Dxg7 47.Txg7+
Rf5 48.Ta7 Td2 49.Ta3 h5 (342.308.227) 483
20/60 23:57 -0.48 36...Tb2 37.d7 a2 38.Dxh6 Dxh6 39.d8D+ Rg7 40.Rg2 Txf2+
41.Rxf2 De3+ 42.Txe3 dxe3+ 43.Re2 a1D 44.De7+ Rg6 45.De4+ Rg7 46.Dxe3 Rf7 47.De4
De5 48.Rf3 Db8 (746.569.801) 519
21/60 39:39 -0.47 36...Tb2 37.d7 a2 38.Dxh6 Dxh6 39.d8D+ Rg7 40.Rg2 Txf2+
41.Rxf2 De3+ 42.Txe3 dxe3+ 43.Re2 a1D 44.De7+ Rg6 45.De4+ Rg7 46.Dxe3 Da2+
47.Rf3 Da1 48.De7+ Rg6 49.De4+ Rg7 (1.236.982.337) 519
22/62 61:08 -0.72-- 36...Tb2 37.d7 a2 38.Dxh6 Dxh6 39.d8D+ Rg7 40.Te7+ Rg6
41.Dg8+ Rf5 42.g4+ Rf4 43.Te4+ Rf3 44.Dd5 Dg6 45.Te3+ Rxg4 46.Tg3+ Rf4 47.Df3+
Re5 48.Da8 Df7 49.Tg4 Rd6 (1.905.593.162) 519
A long analisys on Be3 using Shredder8 on an AthlonXP3200+ with
830 RAM shows:
[D]5q1k/3P3p/1p2Qp2/1Pp5/2P5/p2Pp1P1/3r4/4R1K1 b - -
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
8 | |:::| |:::| |*D*| |*R*
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
7 |:::| |:::| P |:::| |:::|*P*
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
6 | |*P*| |:::| D |*P*| |:::
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
5 |:::| P |*P*| |:::| |:::|
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
4 | |:::| P |:::| |:::| |:::
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
3 |*P*| |:::| P |*P*| | P |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
2 | |:::| |*T*| |:::| |:::
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
1 |:::| |:::| | T | | R |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
a b c d e f g h
Shredder 8
1/01 0:00 -0.70-- 39...Da8 40.Dxf6+ Rg8 41.d8D+ Dxd8 42.Dxd8+ Rg7 (1)
1/07 0:00 -9.47-- 39...Da8 40.Dxf6+ Rg8 41.d8D+ Dxd8 42.Dxd8+ Rg7 (9)
1/10 0:00 -10.99 39...Da8 40.Dxf6+ Rg8 41.d8D+ Dxd8 42.Dxd8+ Rf7 43.Dxb6
(24)
1/10 0:00 -10.98++ 39...Dd6 40.Dxd6 Txd3 41.d8D+ Rg7 (25)
1/10 0:00 -10.63++ 39...Dd6 40.Dxd6 Txd3 41.d8D+ Rg7 (26)
1/10 0:00 -10.63 39...Dd6 40.Dxd6 Txd3 41.d8D+ Rg7 (29)
1/10 0:00 -10.62++ 39...Txd3 40.De8 Dg8 41.Txe3 Td1+ 42.Rh2 a2 43.Ta3 Td2+
44.Rh3 Txd7 45.Dxd7 f5 46.Txa2 Dxg3+ 47.Rxg3 Rg8 (30) 1
1/17 0:00 -10.27++ 39...Txd3 40.De8 Dg8 41.Txe3 Td1+ 42.Rh2 a2 43.Ta3 Td2+
44.Rh3 Txd7 45.Dxd7 f5 46.Txa2 Dxg3+ 47.Rxg3 Rg8 (31) 1
1/17 0:00 -0.08 39...Txd3 40.Txe3 a2 41.Txd3 a1D+ 42.Td1 Dxd1+ 43.Rh2 (32)
2
2/05 0:00 -0.47-- 39...Txd3 40.De8 Dg8 41.Txe3 Td1+ 42.Rh2 a2 43.Ta3 Td2+
44.Rh3 Txd7 45.Dxd7 f5 46.Txa2 Dxg3+ 47.Rxg3 Rg8 (84) 5
2/17 0:00 +0.17 39...Txd3 40.d8A Dxd8 41.Dxf6+ Dxf6 42.Txe3 (116) 7
3/08 0:00 -0.47-- 39...Txd3 40.De8 Dg8 41.Txe3 Td1+ 42.Rh2 a2 43.Ta3 Td2+
44.Rh3 Txd7 45.Dxd7 f5 46.Txa2 Dxg3+ 47.Rxg3 Rg8 (227) 14
3/17 0:00 -0.47 39...Txd3 40.De8 Dg8 41.Dh5 (333) 20
4/08 0:00 -0.22++ 39...Txd3 40.De8 Dg8 41.Df7 Dxf7 42.d8D+ Txd8 43.Td1 (667)
41
4/08 0:00 -0.22 39...Txd3 40.De8 Dg8 41.Txe3 Td1+ 42.Rh2 a2 43.Ta3 Td2+
44.Rh3 Txd7 45.Dxd7 f5 46.Txa2 Dxg3+ 47.Rxg3 Rg8 (710) 22
5/07 0:00 -0.47-- 39...Txd3 40.De8 Dg8 41.Txe3 Td1+ 42.Rh2 a2 43.Ta3 Td2+
44.Rh3 Txd7 45.Dxd7 f5 46.Txa2 Dxg3+ 47.Rxg3 Rg8 (985) 30
5/17 0:00 -0.47 39...Txd3 40.De8 Dg8 41.Txe3 Td1+ 42.Rh2 a2 43.De5 fxe5
44.Txe5 (1.435) 44
6/17 0:00 -0.22++ 39...Txd3 40.De8 Dg8 41.Txe3 Td1+ 42.Rh2 a2 43.De5 fxe5
44.Txe5 (2.669) 83
6/17 0:00 +0.28++ 39...Txd3 40.De8 Dg8 41.Txe3 Td1+ 42.Rh2 a2 43.Dxg8+ Rxg8
44.Rh3 a1D 45.d8D+ Txd8 46.Te7 (3.877) 121
6/17 0:00 +0.28 39...Txd3 40.De8 Dxe8 41.dxe8D+ Rg7 (4.558) 96
7/19 0:00 +0.03-- 39...Txd3 40.De8 a2 41.Dxf8+ (4.865) 103
7/19 0:00 -0.47-- 39...Txd3 40.De8 Rg7 41.Txe3 a2 42.Txd3 a1D+ 43.Rf2 Da2+
44.Re3 Dxc4 (5.200) 110
7/24 0:00 -0.54 39...Txd3 40.De8 Rg7 41.Txe3 Td1+ 42.Rf2 a2 43.Te7+ Rg8
44.Tf7 Tf1+ 45.Rg2 Tg1+ 46.Rf2 a1D 47.Txf8+ Rg7 48.Tg8+ Rh6 49.De3+ Rh5 50.Dd2
(37.416) 340
8/20 0:00 -0.79-- 39...Txd3 40.De8 Rg7 41.Txe3 Td1+ 42.Rf2 a2 43.Te7+ Rg8
44.Txh7 Td2+ 45.Re3 Rxh7 46.Dxf8 a1A 47.d8D (52.603) 373
8/28 0:00 -1.29-- 39...Txd3 40.De8 Rg7 41.Txe3 Td1+ 42.Rf2 a2 43.Te7+ Rg8
44.Txh7 Td2+ 45.Re3 Rxh7 46.Dxf8 Rg6 47.d8D (66.027) 383
8/28 0:00 -1.61 39...Txd3 40.De8 Rg7 41.Txe3 Td1+ 42.Rf2 a2 43.Te7+ Rg8
44.Txh7 Tf1+ 45.Rg2 Tg1+ 46.Rh2 Th1+ 47.Rg2 (99.352) 397
9/29 0:00 -1.86-- 39...Txd3 40.De8 Rg7 41.Txe3 Td1+ 42.Rg2 Td2+ 43.Rh3 f5
44.Dxf8+ Rxf8 45.Te8+ Rg7 46.d8D Td1 47.Dxd1 (176.813) 418
9/30 0:00 -2.35 39...Txd3 40.De8 Dg8 41.Txe3 Td1+ 42.Rf2 a2 43.Ta3 h6
44.Txa2 Rg7 45.Re2 Dxc4+ 46.Rxd1 Dc1+ 47.Rxc1 (213.752) 427
10/36 0:00 -2.35 39...Txd3 40.De8 Dg8 41.Txe3 Td1+ 42.Rf2 a2 43.Ta3 Rg7
44.Ta7 Rh8 45.Txa2 Td3 46.Re1 f5 47.Tf2 (329.166) 438
11/36 0:01 -2.60-- 39...Txd3 40.De8 Dg8 41.Txe3 Td1+ 42.Rf2 a2 43.Ta3 Rg7
44.Ta7 Rh8 45.Txa2 Td2+ 46.Txd2 h6 47.d8D (452.942) 445
11/36 0:01 -3.10-- 39...Txd3 40.De8 Dg8 41.Txe3 Td1+ 42.Rf2 a2 43.Ta3 Rg7
44.Ta7 Rh8 45.Txa2 Td2+ 46.Txd2 Rg7 47.d8D Dxe8 48.Dxe8 (595.398) 459
11/40 0:02 -3.46 39...Txd3 40.De8 Dg8 41.Txe3 Td1+ 42.Rf2 a2 43.Ta3 Td2+
44.Rf3 Rg7 45.Ta8 Dxc4 46.Dh8+ Rh6 47.Dxf6+ Rh5 48.Df5+ Rh6 49.Df8+ Rg6 50.d8D
Txd8 51.Dxd8 (970.330) 477
12/40 0:02 -3.71-- 39...Txd3 40.De8 Dg8 41.Txe3 Td1+ 42.Rf2 a2 43.Ta3 Td2+
44.Rf3 Rg7 45.Ta7 Td3+ 46.Rf2 Rh8 47.Txa2 Rg7 48.De7+ Df7 49.d8D Td5 50.cxd5
(1.367.009) 480
12/40 0:03 -4.21-- 39...Txd3 40.De8 Dg8 41.Txe3 Td1+ 42.Rf2 a2 43.Ta3 Td2+
44.Rf3 Rg7 45.Ta7 Td3+ 46.Rf2 Rh8 47.Txa2 Rg7 48.De7+ Df7 49.d8D Rh6 50.Dxf7
Td2+ 51.Txd2 (1.506.267) 484
12/40 0:05 -5.21 39...Txd3 40.De8 Rg7 41.Txe3 a2 42.Dxf8+ Rxf8 43.Txd3 a1D+
44.Rf2 Da2+ 45.Re3 Dxc4 46.d8D+ Rf7 47.Dd5+ Dxd5 48.Txd5 Re7 49.Rd3 Re6 50.Rc4
(2.752.209) 489
13/36 0:06 -5.23 39...Txd3 40.De8 Rg7 41.Txe3 a2 42.Dxf8+ Rxf8 43.Txd3 a1D+
44.Rf2 Da2+ 45.Re3 Dxc4 46.d8D+ Rf7 47.Dd5+ Dxd5 48.Txd5 Re6 49.Th5 h6 50.Txh6
(3.207.389) 489
14/42 0:08 -5.48-- 39...Txd3 40.De8 Rg7 41.Txe3 a2 42.Dxf8+ Rxf8 43.Txd3 a1D+
44.Rf2 Da2+ 45.Re3 Dxc4 46.d8D+ Rf7 47.Dxb6 Dc1+ 48.Re2 Rg7 49.Td2 Dc4+ 50.Rf2
Dc1 51.Da7+ Rg6 52.Re3 Dxd2+ (4.108.178) 487
14/42 0:12 -5.63 39...Txd3 40.De8 Rg7 41.Txe3 Td1+ 42.Rg2 a2 43.Te7+ Dxe7
44.Dxe7+ Rg6 45.De8+ Rg7 46.Da8 Txd7 47.Dxa2 h6 48.Rf3 Td4 49.Da7+ Rg6 50.Dxb6
Tf4+ 51.gxf4 (6.107.923) 500
15/45 0:20 -5.74 39...Txd3 40.De8 Rg7 41.Txe3 Td1+ 42.Rg2 a2 43.Te7+ Dxe7
44.Dxe7+ Rg6 45.De8+ Rh6 46.Df8+ Rg6 47.Dg8+ Rh6 48.Da8 Txd7 49.Dxa2 Td6
(10.545.331) 505
16/47 0:41 -5.93 39...Txd3 40.De8 Dg8 41.Txe3 Txd7 42.Dxd7 a2 43.Da7 Dd8
44.Rf2 h6 45.Dxa2 Rg7 46.Db1 Rf7 47.De4 Dd4 48.Dxd4 Rg6 49.Te2 cxd4 (20.668.829)
503
17/54 2:06 -6.17 39...Txd3 40.De8 Rg7 41.Txe3 Td1+ 42.Rf2 h5 43.Te7+ Rg8
44.d8D Dxe8 45.Txe8+ Rg7 46.Dxd1 Rf7 47.Dxh5+ Rg7 48.Dxc5 Rg6 49.Dxa3 Rh6
(65.785.386) 520
18/50 2:59 -6.42-- 39...Txd3 40.De8 Rg7 41.Txe3 Td1+ 42.Rf2 h5 43.Te7+ Rg8
44.d8D Dxe8 45.Txe8+ Rg7 46.Dxd1 Rf7 47.Dxh5+ Rg7 48.Dxc5 Rg6 49.Dxa3 Rh6 50.Rf3
Rg7 (92.968.860) 517
On November 25, 2004 at 13:03:38, David Dahlem wrote:
>On November 25, 2004 at 12:57:41, Rafael Vasquez wrote:
>
>>David,
>>
>>Black is Lost anyway, The Queen has to keep the 8th row + The e
>>column belongs to white + White Queen is threatening access in c8
>>+ d6 passed pawn.
>>
>>Rafael
>
>I'm certainly not an expert, but can't Black force a repetition check with Be3?
>
>Regards
>Dave
>
>>
>>
>>On November 25, 2004 at 12:19:02, David Dahlem wrote:
>>
>>>[D]5q1k/7p/1p1P1p1b/1Pp5/2Pp4/p2P2PQ/r4B2/4R1K1 b - - 0 36
>>>
>>>In this position, Ktulu 5.1 played Bd2, and lost in a few moves.
>>>
>>>Analysis by Ktulu 5.1 - P3/933/32mb hash - Arena GUI:
>>>
>>>Ktulu needs over 16 minutes to find 36...Be3. What do other engines think about
>>>this position?
>>>
>>> 11 00:03 -1.96 1. ... Bd2 2.Re7 Ra1+ 3.Kh2 Bh6 4.Qf5 Bg7 5.Qd5 Rf1 6.Kg2 a2
>>>7.d7 a1Q 8.d8Q Qd1
>>> 12 00:05 -1.96 1. ... Bd2 2.Re7 Ra1+ 3.Kh2 Bh6 4.Qf5 Bg7 5.Qd5 Rf1 6.Kg2 a2
>>>7.d7 a1Q 8.d8Q Qd1
>>> 13 00:11 -1.79 1. ... Bd2 2.Re7 Ra1+ 3.Kh2 Bh6 4.Rb7 Rb1 5.Qf5 Bg7 6.Rxb6 a2
>>>7.Ra6 a1Q 8.Rxa1 Rxa1
>>> 14 00:27 -0.69 1. ... Bd2 2.Re7 Ra1+ 3.Kh2 Bh6 4.Rb7 Bg7 5.Rxb6 Rd1 6.Ra6
>>>Rxd3 7.Qf5 Rd2 8.Kg2 Bh6
>>> 15 01:13 -0.82 1. ... Bd2 2.Re7 Ra1+ 3.Kh2 Bh6 4.Rb7 Bg7 5.Rxb6 Ra2 6.Qf5 Re2
>>>7.Ra6 a2 8.b6 Rb2 9.d7 Qd8 10.b7 Rxb7
>>> 16 02:31 0.00 1. ... Bd2 2.Re7 Ra1+ 3.Kh2 Bh6 4.Qd7 a2 5.Re8 Rf1 6.Rxf8+
>>>Bxf8 7.Qc8 Rxf2+ 8.Kh3 Kg7
>>> 17 07:22 +0.91 1. ... Bd2 2.Re7 Ra1+ 3.Kh2 Bh6 4.Qd7 a2 5.Re8 Rf1 6.Rxf8+
>>>Bxf8 7.Kg2 a1Q 8.Qe8 Kg7 9.d7 Rh1 10.d8Q Qf1+ 11.Kf3 Qxd3+ 12.Kg4 Qd1+ 13.Kf4
>>>Qd2+ 14.Be3 Bd6+ 15.Qxd6
>>> 17 16:14 0.00 1. ... Be3 2.Bxe3 dxe3 3.Qe6 Qh6 4.Qe8+ Kg7 5.Qd7+ Kh8 6.Qc8+
>>>Kg7 7.Qd7+
>>>
>>>Here is the complete game...
>>>
>>>[Event "SlowChess Blitz Gauntlet"]
>>>[Site "?"]
>>>[Date "2004.11.25"]
>>>[Round "1"]
>>>[White "SlowChess Blitz"]
>>>[Black "Ktulu 5.1"]
>>>[Result "1-0"]
>>>[ECO "B06"]
>>>[Opening "Modern"]
>>>[Time "10:09:54"]
>>>[Variation "1.e4 g6 2.Nc3 Bg7"]
>>>[TimeControl "600+10"]
>>>
>>>1.e4 g6 2.Nc3 Bg7 3.g3 d6 4.Bg2 e5 5.d3 Ne7 6.f4 {+0.12/10 25} Nbc6 {-0.04/13
>>>31} 7.fxe5 {+0.16/11 24} dxe5 {+0.10/14 21} 8.Be3 {+0.08/11 27} Qd6 {+0.39/14
>>>79} 9.Nf3 {+0.04/10 27} Nd4 {+0.32/12 26} 10.O-O {+0.12/9 27} O-O {+0.33/13 35}
>>>11.Qd2 {+0.08/9 27} c5 {+0.34/12 16} 12.Nd5 {+0.08/9 27} Nxd5 {+0.49/14 12}
>>>13.exd5 {+0.04/10 10} Nf5 {+0.49/14 14} 14.c4 {+0.04/10 25} f6 {+0.41/14 15}
>>>15.Bf2 {+0.04/10 25} Bh6 {+0.82/15 21} 16.Qe2 {+0.12/10 25} Bd7 {+0.87/15 37}
>>>17.Rad1 {+0.08/10 25} Nd4 {+1.03/14 16} 18.Nxd4 {+0.16/11 25} exd4 {+0.98/15 14}
>>>19.b4 {+0.12/12 25} b6 {+0.98/15 11} 20.Qf3 {+0.12/11 17} Rab8 {+0.90/15 44}
>>>21.Kh1 {+0.16/10 22} Rbe8 {+0.81/14 18} 22.Rfe1 {+0.08/11 22} a5 {+1.14/14 12}
>>>23.b5 {+0.12/11 22} Bg5 {+0.97/16 33} 24.Kg1 {+0.04/11 22} a4 {+0.92/16 16}
>>>25.Kh1 {-0.08/10 22} a3 {+1.11/16 10} 26.Kg1 {-0.08/11 21} Bh6 {+1.07/15 10}
>>>27.Kh1 {-0.12/11 22} Kh8 {+0.92/14 10} 28.Kg1 {-0.16/11 22} Bg5 {+0.99/15 11}
>>>29.h4 {-0.12/11 22} Bh6 {+1.36/15 13} 30.h5 {-0.16/10 22} gxh5 {+1.95/15 10}
>>>31.Rxe8 {-0.44/11 15} Rxe8 {+1.28/17 35} 32.Bh3 {-0.44/11 15} Bxh3 {+1.63/15 13}
>>>33.Qxh5 {-0.83/12 15} Qf8 {+1.65/16 27} 34.Qxh3 {-0.24/11 15} Re2 {+1.29/15 11}
>>>35.Re1 {0.00/11 14} Rxa2 {+1.96/14 12} 36.d6 {0.00/10 13} Bd2 {+0.86/13 56}
>>>37.Re7 {+3.26/10 31} Ra1+ {-0.24/12 65} 38.Kh2 {+3.96/11 15} Bh6 {-1.72/14 13}
>>>39.Qf5 {+4.20/11 14} Bg7 {-4.25/13 7} 40.Qe6 {+4.96/10 14} a2 {-4.92/14 15}
>>>41.d7 {+4.96/9 15} Rh1+ {-6.74/12 9} 42.Kxh1 {+9.84/12 13} a1=Q+ {-10.15/13 7}
>>>43.Be1 {+9.72/12 15} Qaa8+ {-10.69/14 58} 44.Kh2 {+10.96/13 15} {Black resigns}
>>>1-0
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>Dave
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