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Subject: Re: Gandalf 6 v Shredder 8 classical time control, first 10 games

Author: Kurt Utzinger

Date: 10:02:14 11/27/04

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On November 27, 2004 at 11:41:24, Chessfun wrote:

>On November 27, 2004 at 11:14:02, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>
>>On November 27, 2004 at 10:03:49, Chessfun wrote:
>>
>>>On November 27, 2004 at 04:19:37, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 27, 2004 at 03:33:59, George Sobala wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Gandalf 6 v Shredder 8
>>>>>
>>>>>Classical time control: 40/120' + 20/60' +game/60'
>>>>>Shredder Classic GUI
>>>>>Both engines 64M hash, pondering off
>>>>>Books: Shredder using shredder8a.bkt, Gandalf using own book
>>>>>3,4 and some 5 man TBs
>>>>>Centrino 1.6GHz, Windows XP SP2
>>>>>
>>>>>G6  00½½½½½½0½    3
>>>>>S8  11½½½½½½1½    7
>>>>>
>>>>>last 5 games PGN will follow
>>>>>
>>>>>match continues ...
>>>>
>>>>     It will be interesting to see the result
>>>>     of this match after 30-50 games -:) Keep
>>>>     up your work.
>>>>     Kurt [http://www.utzingerk.com]
>>>
>>>I tried this match as well same settings. Both programs get to 99.9% hash used
>>>in under a minute. IMO It's a waste of time, maximum with this hash setting
>>>should be probably 30 mins game.
>>>
>>>Sarah.
>>
>>      Hi Sarah
>>      Do you really think that more hash would
>>      make a sensible influence on the outcome
>>      of this match. I very much doubt. A result
>>      of 3-7 can happen, the next serie may be
>>      6-4 for G60 (I hope)
>>      Kind regards
>>      Kurt
>
>
>I think it can from watching the engines in the game I ran. It seems to me that
>if the engine is at 100% hash then we don't really have a 40/120' + 20/60'
>game/60' time control. And if we believe that engines perform differently at
>different controls then we have a match that is in fact only 30 mins game.
>
>Sarah.


      Hi Sarah
      In my opinion your assumption is not correct.
      You could test this by comparing 120'/40 64 MB hash
      and 30m/game 64 MB hash and 120'/40 64 MB hash with
      120'/40 and 256/512 MB hash. Search depth of moves
      with 64 MB will hardly be different to 256/512 MB
      hash but in any case much higher than a 30m/game with
      512 MB hash. According to my tests, the importance
      of hash size is much overestimated.
      Kurt




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