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Subject: Re: WM-Test Nr. 45 - - solution is wrong

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 08:26:57 11/29/04

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On November 29, 2004 at 10:56:13, Joachim Rang wrote:

>On November 29, 2004 at 08:20:38, Franz Hagra wrote:
>
>>see http://f23.parsimony.net/forum50826/messages/113535.htm
>>
>>r1b1n2r/1p2q3/1Qp1npk1/4p1p1/P1B1P3/2P1BNP1/1P3PK1/R3R3 b - - 0 22
>>
>>best move is not Nf4 - better to play first Nd6 and then Nf4
>>
>>This is a main problem test positions - there is always the possibility that the
>>solution move must not be played imidiatly and in this case with nowadays
>>testsuits and GUI's its not possible to test the fact that the engine is
>>"understandig" the position and here motives!
>>
>>eg: an engine finding Nf4 and not Nd6 and than Nf4 would have better test
>>results = the engine seeing less earns more points!
>>
>>Hagra
>
>Thanks Hagra for your confidence in my hurried analysis. Nvertheless it is not
>yet proven, that Nd6 is better, perhaps both moves are equal. It's a very
>complicated and unclear position. I would appreciate any analysis regarding this
>position.
>
>But I thank you for pointing out the quality of the WM-Test, where in the first
>50 Positions only one position was found to be unclear. I too think this is a
>pretty good percentage for a testsuite.
>
>regards Joachim

1 position out of 50 that was proved to be unclear does not prove that the rest
are clear.

I do not know if people looked at the rest of the positions to decide if they
are clear or not clear.

I remember that in the past I looked at part of  the problems and was not
convinced that the solutions are correct.

I was not convinced also about the opposite but as far as I remember I could not
teach yace that the solutions are correct in a short time by going forward and
backward.

Uri




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