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Subject: Re: Kramnik- Kamsky ?

Author: P. Massie

Date: 19:56:59 11/29/04

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On November 29, 2004 at 21:45:11, Albert Silver wrote:

>On November 29, 2004 at 19:55:39, P. Massie wrote:
>
>>On November 29, 2004 at 17:44:54, Thomas Logan wrote:
>>
>>>On November 29, 2004 at 17:35:05, Albert Silver wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 29, 2004 at 17:10:13, Thomas Logan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Had they played a candidate's match 10 years ago ?
>>>>>
>>>>>Any details ?
>>>>>
>>>>>Tom
>>>>
>>>>Kamsky clobbered Kramnik 4.5 - 1.5 in the quarter finals of the WC cycle.
>>>
>>>
>>>Interresting !
>>>
>>>My chess history is lacking as I left chess for a period of time
>>>
>>>Is this before Kramnik took Kasparov's title
>>>
>>>Had Kramnik lost to Kamsky and Shirov and still gotten a title match ?
>>>
>>>Tom
>>
>>That is exactly the case. Which makes his current position even more
>>questionable.
>>
>>Paul
>
>That is NOT exactly the case. The winner of the PCA candidates cycle was Anand,
>beating Kamsky in the finals, and Anand played Kasparov in 1995 as was his
>right.
>
>                                         Albert

You are correct, of course.  I skipped a few matches.  As I recall there were
two parallel cycles - the PCA and the FIDE.  Kamsky won the FIDE cycle and
finally lost to Karpov in the title match, while Anand (as you said) won the PCA
cycle and lost to Kasparov in the title match.  However, along the way Kamsky
did beat Kramnik, although I don't remember which cycle it was in.

I may be mistaken, but I seem to vaguely remember that Kamsky beat Anand in the
FIDE cycle and lost to him in the PCA cycle.

Paul



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