Author: Peter Berger
Date: 08:34:56 12/01/04
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On November 30, 2004 at 21:09:39, Uri Blass wrote:
>Same for yace and yace givces only a small advantage for white.
>It seems that the main problem is that movei underestimates white's advantage.
>
>Yace is even worse than movei in that respect.
>Movei can see at least more than 0.5 pawns for white after some analysis.
>
Yes, you got my point. I don't know if there is a truely satisfactory move for
black in this position and I doubt it. But problem was that Movei wasn't aware
that there was a major problem in the first place, and it took it several more
moves.
Maybe it is interesting to compair with Junior's point of view.
Peter
[Event "Blitz:120'+10""]
[Site "Berlin"]
[Date "2004.11.30"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Junior 8.0.0.2"]
[Black "Movei 00_8_295"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "D47"]
[Annotator "P233-Athlon64 3200+(2.0GHz)"]
[PlyCount "109"]
[TimeControl "7200+10"]
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[%emt 0:00:00]} Nbd7 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 6. Bd3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} dxc4 {
[%emt 0:00:03]} 7. Bxc4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} b5 {[%emt 0:00:03]} 8. Bd3 {
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[%emt 0:00:04]} 10. Ne4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Be7 {[%emt 0:00:04]} 11. Nxf6+ {
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[%emt 0:04:41]} 16. Bg5 {[%eval 51,15] [%emt 0:00:00]} cxd4 {
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[%eval 142,13] [%emt 0:00:00]} Qc6 {(Db7) [%emt 0:02:12]} 24. Re4 {
[%eval 137,14] [%emt 0:06:50]} Nxf2 {(Sh6) [%emt 0:00:05]} 25. Rxf2 {
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[%eval 205,16] [%emt 0:00:00]} f5 {(h5) [%emt 0:03:09]} 34. exf6 {
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[%eval 470,13] [%emt 0:01:57]} Rb6 {(Tb4) [%emt 0:00:54]} 39. Bc4 {
[%eval 470,12] [%emt 0:01:14]} Qa7 {(Dd7) [%emt 0:02:06]} 40. Bf4 {
[%eval 494,12] [%emt 0:01:15]} Kf7 {(Df7) [%emt 0:07:46]} 41. Kg3 {
[%eval 476,12] [%emt 0:01:06]} Qb7 {(Dd7) [%emt 0:01:46]} 42. h3 {
[%eval 471,12] [%emt 0:02:06]} Qd7 {(Dc6) [%emt 0:03:55]} 43. Re4 {
[%eval 490,11] [%emt 0:01:11]} Qc6 {(Tb4) [%emt 0:03:01]} 44. Be3 {
[%eval 487,12] [%emt 0:01:12]} Rb7 {[%emt 0:00:21]} 45. Bc5 {
[%eval 546,13] [%emt 0:00:57]} Qc7 {(h6) [%emt 0:02:50]} 46. Bd6 {
[%eval 550,14] [%emt 0:01:51]} Qd7 {[%emt 0:02:16]} 47. Qf4 {
[%eval 634,14] [%emt 0:00:00]} g5 {(Dc6) [%emt 0:02:04]} 48. Qxg5 {
[%eval 705,11] [%emt 0:00:29]} Qxd6+ {(Tg8) [%emt 0:00:58]} 49. Kh4 {
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[%eval 736,14] [%emt 0:00:00]} Rxg5 {(Dxe6) [%emt 0:13:16]} 51. Rxd6+ {
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[%eval 1022,16] [%emt 0:00:37]} 1-0
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