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Subject: Re: computer chess test positions - Please post as .EPD

Author: Howard Exner

Date: 05:57:18 01/18/99

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On January 17, 1999 at 20:40:47, allan johnson wrote:

>Richard I'm sorry but I'm not familiar with EPD but I'll provide 3 examples
> from the book.
> Example46
> White Kg1 Qh5 R-d1,e1 B-g3,N-e5,Ps-a2,d4,f2,g2,h4
> Black Kg7 Qd8 R-f8,c3 Bd7 Nb6 Ps-a6,b7,d5,f7,g5,h6
> Key move Nxf7! Rebel plays R-b1

Here Rb1 does not look so bad either. It gets a big plus score as it
now also threatens Nxf7. This one is #730 in ECM98 (the project done here in CCC
awhile back). The forcing line given as winning is 1.Nxf7 Rxf7 2.Be5+ Rf6 3.hxg5
hxg5
4.Qg5+ Kf7 5. Qh5+ Kg8 6. Rb1! (note this move showing up now but try entering
it in
first to compare the evals)

>
> Example 52
> White Kg1 Qf3 R-c1,e4 B-b3,g5 Ps-a2,b2,f2,g3,h4
> Black Kg8 Qf8 R-a8,h8 Bd4 Nb6 Ps-a7,c5,f7,g6,h5
> Key move Re7 Rebel Be7

This is a position from Alehkine - Opocensky, 1925. In Alehkine's book, "My Best
Games Of Chess 1908-1937" he plays the winning line 1.Rxd4! cxd4 Rc6 ...
I think the move Re7 is not as good as what Alehkine really played. Rebel 10 on
my AMD-233 plays Rxd4
in 0:10.

>
> Example 274 This position really highlights the passivity of most chess
>             computer programmes I believe!
>
> White Kg1 Qf4 R-d2,e1 Bf1 N-g4,g5 Ps-a4,b3,c2,e5,f2,g3,h6
> Black Kg8 Qe7 R-c3,a8 Bc8 N-c6,d7 Ps-a6,b4,d5,e6,f7,g6,h7
> Key move Rxd5!! Rebel 10 plays Bg2

This is another one from ECM98, #465. I recall we discussed this but the line
starting with Rxd5 held up. 1. Rxd5 exd5 2. e6 fxe6 3. Rxe6 Qf8 4. Qxf8 Kxf8
5.Nxh7+ Kg8 6. Ng5 ...


> Iwould love to write in EPD so I'd appreciate any help in that area

If you like the ECM98 suite can be downloaded from Manfred Rosenboom's
chess site. In that suite Amir Ban (Junior), Bruce Moreland (Ferret),
myself (Using the actual book for help) and a host of others attempted
to remove the problems that were vague or had faulty solutions. It contains many
nice positions, like the third one you posted for example, that are
challenging for chess programs.



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