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Subject: Re: engines can't find mate in 3 in chessbase 8

Author: Tony Nichols

Date: 12:52:03 12/01/04

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On December 01, 2004 at 15:31:34, John Merlino wrote:

>On December 01, 2004 at 14:42:06, Tony Nichols wrote:
>
>>On December 01, 2004 at 14:28:44, John Merlino wrote:
>>
>>>On December 01, 2004 at 14:06:54, Tony Nichols wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 01, 2004 at 13:16:06, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On December 01, 2004 at 10:13:56, Tony Nichols wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I was looking at a study in chessbase 8 that is a mate in three. Unable to solve
>>>>>>it myself I fired up Shredder 8. To my surprise Shredder claimed it was a mate
>>>>>>in 5!? Deep Fritz 8 also said mate in 5. When I played the key move both engines
>>>>>>saw the mate in 2! Other engines found the mate in 3 immediately(Hiarcs 9, Chess
>>>>>>Tiger 15, Gambit Tiger 2.0, Crafty 19.17 etc.). If someone would tell me how to
>>>>>>post the position I will. Has anyone else had similiar problems?
>>>>>
>>>>>What is the position you are looking at?
>>>>Hi Dan
>>>>I don't know how to post the position. If you tell me how I will post it.
>>>>Regards
>>>>Tony
>>>>P.S. it is a study by Milan Vukcevich
>>>
>>>You can just describe the position (which pieces are on which squares, and whose
>>>side to move it is) and somebody else can convert it to the proper format.
>>>
>>>Or, if you know how to convert the position into a FEN string, just put a line
>>>in your post that has a [D] at the beginning and then paste the FEN string
>>>immediately after it. That will do the trick.
>>>
>>>jm
>>ok here goes [D]3K1B2/2pPPp2/7R/2k2r2/7q/P2Q4/8/8 w - - 0 1
>>wKd8,Qd3,Bf8,Rh6,Pa3,d7,e7/bKc5,Qh4,Rf5,Pc7,f7
>
>CM9000 also finds it in a handful of milliseconds. It is possible, since some
>solution paths require underpromotions (e.g. 1.Ra6 Qc4 2.e8=N+! Kb5 3.Nxc7#),
>that this could be the reason that some engines don't find the mate in 3.
>
>jm

 Interestingly enough all my UCI engines find it immediately in Frtiz 8 GUI.
Only native chessbase engines have a problem.
Regards Tony



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