Author: Ernst A. Heinz
Date: 06:49:20 01/18/99
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On January 18, 1999 at 09:16:21, Harald Faber wrote: >On January 18, 1999 at 08:14:52, Ernst A. Heinz wrote: > >>>Note that this prohibits objecting to removal of messages, but does not >>>prohibit discussing moderation issues in a general way. >> >>This additional condition reverses your above "revised policy" back again >>to your previous style. Apply this condition and no CCC member is allowed >>within CCC itself to openly protest the removal of a post discussing general >>moderation issues. In this respect, your wording actually changes nothing in >>principle as long as you insist on the additional condition. > >Let me explain shortly: >We don't want nor need or see any sense in discussing EACH single decision in >public. Agreed -- neither do I. >>>3) Quoting of email, without the sender's consent, is prohibited. >> >>As you said, you are keenly aware of your responsibilities. Hence, I do not >>understand why it should be forbidden to *anonymously* quote your responsibly >>formulated messages if they serve to demonstrate the point of the discussion. > >E-mails are s.th. special. They are private. And if you quote A moderator's >e-mail there are only 3 persons who can have written them. True, but just recall the current discussion -- if I had not *anonymously* quoted the moderational email in reply to my official protest, near to nobody would have believed me and the discussion would never have started. Therefore, I still think *anonymous* quotes of email messages from moderators with *strictly* moderational content are appropriate and thus must be allowed. >>P.S. >>I am well aware that my above stated opinions are surely biased by the >>events which lead to the current moderational discussion. Nonetheless, >>I hope to have been able to still conduct a somehow objective analysis >>of the moderators' statements. If the majority of CCC members think that >>I did not succeed in doing so, please frankly tell me to shut up. > >Calm down, we didn't give you a yellow card. :-) I am not upset -- really. (Nobody except myself will probably believe this. :-) This sentence was not directed at the moderators but at the general CCC public. It was meant to express that I am willing to stop this long-running discussion about moderational style if most other CCC members feel that my arguably fine points of objection are somewhat paranoid. =Ernst=
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