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Subject: Re: Movei-Junior - the saga continues

Author: Vasik Rajlich

Date: 04:26:24 12/03/04

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On December 02, 2004 at 14:51:04, José Carlos wrote:

>
>>What is the definition of closed files?
>>By movei's definition closed files are files that are not open and
>>open files are files when there is no friendly pawn that prevent the rook to
>>go forward(there may be pieces or pawns of the opponent that prevent it to go
>>forward but if you remove all pieces except friendly pawns the rook can go to
>>the 8th rank).
>>
>>By movei's definition the b file is an open file because there are no friendly
>>pawns in that file.
>>
>>Movei has a bonus of 0.1 pawns for rook on open file and panelty of 0.1 for
>>closed file and I am not sure if that bonus and panelty is productive.
>>
>>It was productive in the positions that I tested at the time that I implemented
>>it but I did not play enough games and it is possible that the positions were
>>misleading and in different positions I could get different results.
>>
>>Uri
>
>  If there is an enemy pawn in an open line, and it's defended by another pawn,
>that's not likely to be a useful place for a rook.
>  The definition to open line is a line without any pawn.
>  A closed line is a line with a friendly pawn.
>  A semi-open line is a line with no friendly pawn but opponent's pawn.
>  Those three should have IMO different bonus/malus.
>  It is also important to check if a rook in a line can eventually move into
>enemy's position. For example, in the following position:
>[D]r2qkbnr/p1pppppp/1b6/8/8/8/P1PPPPPP/1RBQKBNR w Kkq - 0 1
>  The rook is not very useful in b1. Same for this position:
>[D]r2qkbnr/p1bppppp/2b5/2p5/8/8/P1PPPPPP/1RBQKBNR w Kkq - 0 1
>
>  José C.

Just one thing to add here: these positions are pretty much the worst-case
scenarios for a totally open file, and they're nowhere near as bad as some of
the bad half-open-file cases (as for example from Movei-Junior). If you're going
to give automatic bonuses, it seems that the bonus for a completely open file
should be quite a bit higher than for a half-open file.

Vas



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