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Subject: Re: from the moderators...

Author: Ernst A. Heinz

Date: 07:58:02 01/18/99

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On January 18, 1999 at 10:09:15, Harald Faber wrote:

>On January 18, 1999 at 09:49:20, Ernst A. Heinz wrote:
>
>>>E-mails are s.th. special. They are private. And if you quote A moderator's
>>>e-mail there are only 3 persons who can have written them.
>>
>>True, but just recall the current discussion -- if I had not *anonymously*
>>quoted the moderational email in reply to my official protest, near to nobody
>>would have believed me and the discussion would never have started.
>
>Personally I think there was no need to discuss this one special case here in
>public with dozens of follow-ups.

You still seem to not understand that this was no "one special case" as you
call it -- it dealt with the moderators' general denial of allowing the CCC
membership to discuss moderational issues in public within CCC.

>>Therefore, I still think *anonymous* quotes of email messages from moderators
>>with *strictly* moderational content are appropriate and thus must be allowed.
>
>So here we disagree. Keep in mind that only ONE of the 3 moderators is quoted.
>Out of an ongoing discussion between the moderators maybe. This can be
>misleading and misinterpreted etc.
>
>We 3 have agreed to not tolerate quotations out of private e-mails.

This means that you deem the official email messages that you send as a
moderator to be *private*?

IMO, this is simply impossible without applying double standards. Either you
act officially as a moderator or you act privately as person XYZ. There is
no room to mix the two -- they are mutually exclusive. As a moderator you
cannot hide behind the curtain of privacy -- everything you do is official
and should be subjected to public visibility if necessary.

>I think you should accept and understand this.

I have no problems with agreeing to disagree.

Yet, I do not see a real change of attitude as for the accountability of the
moderators in your posts or the initial moderators' statement.

Therefore, I am still out of active participation in this club for the
time being.

=Ernst=



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