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Subject: Re: Movei-Junior - the saga continues

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 05:55:58 12/03/04

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On December 03, 2004 at 07:26:24, Vasik Rajlich wrote:

>On December 02, 2004 at 14:51:04, José Carlos wrote:
>
>>
>>>What is the definition of closed files?
>>>By movei's definition closed files are files that are not open and
>>>open files are files when there is no friendly pawn that prevent the rook to
>>>go forward(there may be pieces or pawns of the opponent that prevent it to go
>>>forward but if you remove all pieces except friendly pawns the rook can go to
>>>the 8th rank).
>>>
>>>By movei's definition the b file is an open file because there are no friendly
>>>pawns in that file.
>>>
>>>Movei has a bonus of 0.1 pawns for rook on open file and panelty of 0.1 for
>>>closed file and I am not sure if that bonus and panelty is productive.
>>>
>>>It was productive in the positions that I tested at the time that I implemented
>>>it but I did not play enough games and it is possible that the positions were
>>>misleading and in different positions I could get different results.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>  If there is an enemy pawn in an open line, and it's defended by another pawn,
>>that's not likely to be a useful place for a rook.
>>  The definition to open line is a line without any pawn.
>>  A closed line is a line with a friendly pawn.
>>  A semi-open line is a line with no friendly pawn but opponent's pawn.
>>  Those three should have IMO different bonus/malus.
>>  It is also important to check if a rook in a line can eventually move into
>>enemy's position. For example, in the following position:
>>[D]r2qkbnr/p1pppppp/1b6/8/8/8/P1PPPPPP/1RBQKBNR w Kkq - 0 1
>>  The rook is not very useful in b1. Same for this position:
>>[D]r2qkbnr/p1bppppp/2b5/2p5/8/8/P1PPPPPP/1RBQKBNR w Kkq - 0 1
>>
>>  José C.
>
>Just one thing to add here: these positions are pretty much the worst-case
>scenarios for a totally open file, and they're nowhere near as bad as some of
>the bad half-open-file cases (as for example from Movei-Junior). If you're going
>to give automatic bonuses, it seems that the bonus for a completely open file
>should be quite a bit higher than for a half-open file.
>
>Vas

Movei gives bonus for mobility that is not for open files so practically open
files get bigger bonus because the rook control more squares.

Uri



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