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Subject: Some sort of time mgt problem

Author: Norm Pollock

Date: 06:28:24 12/05/04


I use 40/6'+20/3'+game/3' time controls for engine v engine tournaments on my
single cpu machine. I use fritz8 gui, amd 2000xp+, 128M hash each, nalimov
3,4+some5.

I have been noticing a time management problem that affects several engines. I
think it has to do with time lag in accessing nalimov 5man files. The egtb cache
is 16M each. Any help in figuring out what is going wrong is appreciated.

Here is an example of the problem. In the game below, fter the the 79th move,
Arasan (white) has 22 seconds left and Leila (black) has 21 seconds left. The
position is a textbook draw. However Arasan rates the position as 2.12 for
white, and Leila rates it as 0.20 for white.

For the 80th move, Arasan uses 14 seconds and Leila uses 12 seconds. Arasan
(white) has only 7.5 seconds left and Leila (black) has 9.7 seconds left. Their
ratings of the position are unchanged.

At this point, both engines go into "panic" mode and start to move as fast as
they can. However they are also accessing Nalimov 5 tablebases (there are 6
pieces left on the board). Their moves each take 0.3 seconds each. 22 moves
later, after move 102, Arasan (white) has 0.1 seconds left, and Leila (black)
has 2.1 seconds left. White made 22 moves in 7.4 seconds, and black made 22
moves in 7.6 seconds. White rates the position as 3.04 for white, and black
rates the position as 0.20 for white.

White has to complete its 104th move to invoke the 50-move rule (white made a
capture on move 54). There is not enough time left for white because the moves
were not made fast enough, or to put it another way, it went into "panic" mode
too late. Black is also in time trouble, but fortunately for black, white is in
worse trouble.

White loses on time while working on its 103rd move.

Here is the pgn:

[Event "T1-8"]
[Site "MyTown"]
[Date "2004.12.04"]
[Round "8.3"]
[White "Arasan"]
[Black "Leila"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "D45"]
[Annotator "Pollock,Norman"]
[PlyCount "204"]
[EventDate "2004.12.04"]
[Source "Pollock"]
[TimeControl "40/360:20/180:180"]

1. Nf3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Nf6 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 2. d4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} d5 {
[%emt 0:00:00]} 3. c4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} e6 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 4. Nc3 {
[%emt 0:00:00]} c6 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 5. e3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} a6 {[%emt 0:00:00]}
6. Qc2 {[%emt 0:00:00]} c5 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 7. dxc5 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Bxc5 {
[%emt 0:00:00]} 8. a3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} dxc4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 9. Bxc4 {
[%emt 0:00:00]} b5 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 10. Bd3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Nbd7 {
[%emt 0:00:00]} 11. Ne4 {[%eval 18,10] [%emt 0:00:12]} Nxe4 {
(0-0) [%eval 7,10] [%emt 0:00:12]} 12. Bxe4 {[%eval 10,10] [%emt 0:00:04]} Ra7
{[%eval 12,11] [%emt 0:00:12]} 13. b4 {[%eval 3,10] [%emt 0:00:12]} Be7 {
(Bb6) [%eval 28,11] [%emt 0:00:12]} 14. Bb2 {[%eval 12,11] [%emt 0:00:12]} Rc7
{[%eval 25,11] [%emt 0:00:12]} 15. Qb1 {(Qb3) [%eval 10,12] [%emt 0:00:12]} Nf6
{[%eval 2,10] [%emt 0:00:12]} 16. Be5 {(Bd3) [%eval 9,13] [%emt 0:00:12]} Bd6 {
[%eval -7,12] [%emt 0:00:12]} 17. Bxf6 {[%eval -9,12] [%emt 0:00:12]} Qxf6 {
(gxf6) [%eval -12,11] [%emt 0:00:12]} 18. O-O {[%eval 4,12] [%emt 0:00:12]} Qe7
{[%eval -8,11] [%emt 0:00:12]} 19. a4 {(Rd1) [%eval 7,12] [%emt 0:00:12]} f5 {
(Bd7) [%eval -31,11] [%emt 0:00:12]} 20. Bd3 {[%eval 1,12] [%emt 0:00:12]} O-O
{[%eval -24,11] [%emt 0:00:12]} 21. axb5 {[%eval 1,12] [%emt 0:00:12]} axb5 {
[%eval -20,11] [%emt 0:00:12]} 22. Nd4 {(Bxb5) [%eval 6,12] [%emt 0:00:12]}
Bxb4 {[%eval -22,11] [%emt 0:00:12]} 23. Nxb5 {[%eval 14,12] [%emt 0:00:12]}
Rb7 {[%eval -19,11] [%emt 0:00:12]} 24. Qa2 {(Rc1) [%eval -3,11] [%emt 0:00:12]
} Bc5 {[%eval -27,10] [%emt 0:00:12]} 25. Rfc1 {[%eval -4,10] [%emt 0:00:12]}
Bd7 {[%eval -15,10] [%emt 0:00:12]} 26. Nd4 {[%eval -7,11] [%emt 0:00:12]} Bxd4
{[%eval -25,10] [%emt 0:00:12]} 27. exd4 {[%eval -4,11] [%emt 0:00:04]} Qd6 {
(Rfb8) [%eval -21,10] [%emt 0:00:12]} 28. Bc4 {[%eval 0,11] [%emt 0:00:13]}
Rfb8 {[%eval -7,10] [%emt 0:00:12]} 29. d5 {(Qe2) [%eval 14,12] [%emt 0:00:13]}
Rb2 {[%eval -17,10] [%emt 0:00:12]} 30. Qa3 {[%eval 10,13] [%emt 0:00:13]} Qxa3
{[%eval -11,11] [%emt 0:00:12]} 31. Rxa3 {[%eval 3,12] [%emt 0:00:04]} exd5 {
[%eval -1,11] [%emt 0:00:12]} 32. Bxd5+ {[%eval 10,13] [%emt 0:00:05]} Kf8 {
[%eval 3,12] [%emt 0:00:11]} 33. Ra7 {[%eval 9,12] [%emt 0:00:15]} Rc2 {
(Rb1) [%eval -4,12] [%emt 0:00:12]} 34. Rf1 {(Re1) [%eval 9,13] [%emt 0:00:15]}
Be8 {[%eval -11,11] [%emt 0:00:11]} 35. Be6 {[%eval 3,12] [%emt 0:00:15]} Rb5 {
[%eval -20,11] [%emt 0:00:11]} 36. g3 {(Ra8) [%eval -3,12] [%emt 0:00:15]} Re5
{[%eval -14,12] [%emt 0:00:11]} 37. Bb3 {(Bd7) [%eval -1,14] [%emt 0:00:15]}
Rb2 {[%eval -24,12] [%emt 0:00:11]} 38. Bc4 {[%eval -4,13] [%emt 0:00:15]} h6 {
(Rc5) [%eval -6,11] [%emt 0:00:11]} 39. Rd1 {(Rc7) [%eval 6,11] [%emt 0:00:15]}
Re4 {(Re7) [%eval -5,11] [%emt 0:00:11]} 40. Bf1 {
(Bd3) [%eval -6,12] [%emt 0:00:15]} f4 {(Re7) [%eval -4,11] [%emt 0:00:10]} 41.
Rda1 {(Rc1) [%eval 0,10] [%emt 0:00:04]} Bf7 {(Rd4) [%eval -6,9] [%emt 0:00:05]
} 42. Bd3 {(Rc1) [%eval 18,11] [%emt 0:00:04]} Reb4 {[%eval 2,9] [%emt 0:00:05]
} 43. Rc7 {[%eval 18,10] [%emt 0:00:04]} Be8 {(Bd5) [%eval 11,9] [%emt 0:00:07]
} 44. Rc8 {[%eval 25,10] [%emt 0:00:04]} fxg3 {[%eval 16,10] [%emt 0:00:05]}
45. Raa8 {(fxg3) [%eval 104,11] [%emt 0:00:04]} gxh2+ {
(gxf2+) [%eval 15,10] [%emt 0:00:05]} 46. Kxh2 {[%eval 126,11] [%emt 0:00:04]}
Rxf2+ {[%eval 20,10] [%emt 0:00:05]} 47. Kg3 {
(Kg1) [%eval 129,11] [%emt 0:00:04]} Rf6 {(Rfb2) [%eval 20,11] [%emt 0:00:05]}
48. Rxe8+ {[%eval 129,10] [%emt 0:00:04]} Kf7 {[%eval -1,9] [%emt 0:00:00]} 49.
Rf8+ {[%eval 129,11] [%emt 0:00:05]} Ke6 {[%eval 118,10] [%emt 0:00:05]} 50.
Rae8+ {(Rg8) [%eval 129,10] [%emt 0:00:04]} Kd5 {
(Kd7) [%eval 15,11] [%emt 0:00:05]} 51. Rxf6 {
(Rd8+) [%eval 182,10] [%emt 0:00:05]} gxf6 {[%eval -25,10] [%emt 0:00:06]} 52.
Be2 {(Kg2) [%eval 184,9] [%emt 0:00:04]} Kc5 {
(Rb6) [%eval -25,10] [%emt 0:00:05]} 53. Rh8 {
(Kg2) [%eval 203,9] [%emt 0:00:05]} h5 {(Kd6) [%eval 20,11] [%emt 0:00:05]} 54.
Bxh5 {(Rxh5+) [%eval 207,10] [%emt 0:00:05]} Rb3+ {
(f5) [%eval 20,12] [%emt 0:00:05]} 55. Kf4 {(Kg2) [%eval 228,10] [%emt 0:00:05]
} Kd4 {(f5) [%eval 20,11] [%emt 0:00:05]} 56. Rd8+ {
(Rf8) [%eval 237,10] [%emt 0:00:05]} Kc3 {[%eval 20,13] [%emt 0:00:05]} 57. Be2
{(Rd3+) [%eval 234,10] [%emt 0:00:05]} Rb6 {(f5) [%eval 20,13] [%emt 0:00:05]}
58. Kf5 {[%eval 250,9] [%emt 0:00:05]} Kb2 {(Rb2) [%eval 20,12] [%emt 0:00:05]}
59. Rd2+ {(Rf8) [%eval 257,10] [%emt 0:00:05]} Kc3 {
[%eval 20,12] [%emt 0:00:05]} 60. Rd3+ {[%eval 250,11] [%emt 0:00:04]} Kc2 {
[%eval 20,13] [%emt 0:00:05]} 61. Rd5 {(Rd6) [%eval 250,11] [%emt 0:00:13]} Kc1
{(Rb8) [%eval 20,11] [%emt 0:00:14]} 62. Bf3 {
(Rd6) [%eval 253,10] [%emt 0:00:13]} Rb3 {(Rb8) [%eval 20,13] [%emt 0:00:14]}
63. Be4 {(Rc5+) [%eval 250,11] [%emt 0:00:13]} Rb6 {
(Rb2) [%eval 20,14] [%emt 0:00:13]} 64. Rc5+ {
(Rd1+) [%eval 248,11] [%emt 0:00:13]} Kb2 {(Kd2) [%eval 20,14] [%emt 0:00:14]}
65. Bd5 {(Rb5+) [%eval 262,11] [%emt 0:00:13]} Ra6 {
(Rb4) [%eval 20,14] [%emt 0:00:13]} 66. Bg2 {
(Be6) [%eval 254,10] [%emt 0:00:13]} Rd6 {(Ra3) [%eval 20,15] [%emt 0:00:13]}
67. Bf3 {(Rc6) [%eval 262,11] [%emt 0:00:13]} Ka3 {
(Rd2) [%eval 20,15] [%emt 0:00:14]} 68. Rb5 {
(Rd5) [%eval 262,11] [%emt 0:00:13]} Ka4 {(Rd3) [%eval 20,17] [%emt 0:00:14]}
69. Rb8 {(Rb6) [%eval 267,11] [%emt 0:00:13]} Ka3 {
(Rd4) [%eval 20,15] [%emt 0:00:13]} 70. Rb1 {
(Rf8) [%eval 267,11] [%emt 0:00:14]} Ka4 {(Rd4) [%eval 20,14] [%emt 0:00:13]}
71. Rb7 {(Rb6) [%eval 267,11] [%emt 0:00:13]} Ka3 {
(Rd4) [%eval 20,18] [%emt 0:00:13]} 72. Rb8 {
(Rf7) [%eval 264,11] [%emt 0:00:14]} Rd3 {(Rd2) [%eval 20,16] [%emt 0:00:13]}
73. Bc6 {(Be4) [%eval 250,11] [%emt 0:00:14]} Rd6 {
(Rd2) [%eval 20,18] [%emt 0:00:13]} 74. Rb6 {
(Rf8) [%eval 262,11] [%emt 0:00:13]} Ka2 {(Rd2) [%eval 20,19] [%emt 0:00:13]}
75. Kf4 {(Bd5+) [%eval 248,12] [%emt 0:00:14]} Ka1 {
(Rd4+) [%eval 20,17] [%emt 0:00:13]} 76. Ra6+ {
(Be8) [%eval 248,12] [%emt 0:00:13]} Kb2 {[%eval 20,23] [%emt 0:00:13]} 77. Kf5
{(Bb7) [%eval 212,12] [%emt 0:00:14]} Kc3 {[%eval 20,19] [%emt 0:00:13]} 78.
Kg4 {(Ba4) [%eval 48,12] [%emt 0:00:14]} Kb2 {
(Kd4) [%eval 20,21] [%emt 0:00:13]} 79. Kf4 {
(Bb7) [%eval 212,13] [%emt 0:00:14]} Kc3 {(f5) [%eval 20,22] [%emt 0:00:13]}
80. Kf5 {(Bb7) [%eval 212,13] [%emt 0:00:14]} Kb2 {[%eval 20,20] [%emt 0:00:12]
} 81. Ke4 {(Be4) [%eval 212,12] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kc3 {
(f5+) [%eval 20,11] [%emt 0:00:00]} 82. Kf3 {
(Bb5) [%eval 195,10] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kd4 {(f5) [%eval 20,10] [%emt 0:00:00]}
83. Ra4+ {(Bb7) [%eval 207,9] [%emt 0:00:00]} Ke5 {[%eval -25,7] [%emt 0:00:00]
} 84. Ra5+ {(Be4) [%eval 210,8] [%emt 0:00:00]} Ke6 {
[%eval 20,8] [%emt 0:00:00]} 85. Rc5 {(Rd5) [%eval 204,8] [%emt 0:00:00]} Ke7 {
(Rd4) [%eval -25,8] [%emt 0:00:00]} 86. Kf4 {(Kg4) [%eval 229,8] [%emt 0:00:00]
} Kf8 {(Ke6) [%eval -25,7] [%emt 0:00:00]} 87. Kf5 {
[%eval 262,7] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kf7 {(Rd4) [%eval 20,8] [%emt 0:00:00]} 88. Bf3 {
(Rd5) [%eval 262,8] [%emt 0:00:00]} Ke7 {[%eval 20,7] [%emt 0:00:00]} 89. Rc7+
{(Rc6) [%eval 262,8] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kd8 {(Rd7) [%eval 20,10] [%emt 0:00:00]}
90. Rc2 {(Rf7) [%eval 265,8] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kd7 {
(Rd7) [%eval 20,8] [%emt 0:00:00]} 91. Ra2 {(Rc6) [%eval 262,8] [%emt 0:00:00]}
Kc8 {(Rd4) [%eval 20,8] [%emt 0:00:00]} 92. Rh2 {
(Ra8+) [%eval 278,7] [%emt 0:00:00]} Rb6 {(Kd8) [%eval 20,7] [%emt 0:00:00]}
93. Rh7 {(Rh6) [%eval 276,7] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kb8 {
(Rb5+) [%eval 20,7] [%emt 0:00:00]} 94. Rf7 {
(Rb7+) [%eval 289,7] [%emt 0:00:00]} Rb5+ {[%eval 20,8] [%emt 0:00:00]} 95. Kg4
{(Kxf6) [%eval 276,8] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kc8 {(f5+) [%eval 20,6] [%emt 0:00:00]}
96. Kf4 {(Rxf6) [%eval 265,7] [%emt 0:00:00]} Rb6 {
(Rb4+) [%eval 20,9] [%emt 0:00:00]} 97. Bg4+ {
(Rxf6) [%eval 276,7] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kd8 {(f5) [%eval 20,9] [%emt 0:00:00]} 98.
Bf5 {(Rxf6) [%eval 279,8] [%emt 0:00:00]} Rb4+ {[%eval 20,7] [%emt 0:00:00]}
99. Kg3 {(Be4) [%eval 279,9] [%emt 0:00:00]} Rb3+ {
(Ke8) [%eval 20,8] [%emt 0:00:00]} 100. Kf4 {(Kh4) [%eval 293,1] [%emt 0:00:00]
} Rb6 {[%eval 20,11] [%emt 0:00:00]} 101. Be4 {
(Rxf6) [%eval 304,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} Ke8 {[%eval 20,13] [%emt 0:00:00]} 102.
Ra7 {(Rxf6) [%eval 304,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} Rb4 {
Time [%eval 20,14] [%emt 0:00:00]} 0-1








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