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Subject: Re: Strongest Crafty ? NOT 19.17

Author: Matthew Hull

Date: 14:51:39 12/05/04

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On December 05, 2004 at 14:08:25, Uri Blass wrote:

>On December 05, 2004 at 13:31:55, Thomas Gaksch wrote:
>
>>On December 02, 2004 at 17:21:21, Wilhelm Hudetz wrote:
>>
>>>Hi all,
>>>
>>>what are your results with different Crafty versions?
>>>19.08SE give me at the moment the best results, so I run a small
>>>tourney to compare a little bit.
>>>All SE-versions run with SE=on and standard personality.
>>>
>>>AMD3200
>>>Arena-GUI
>>>64mb hash
>>>all using 8move.abk
>>>3,4,5man tb´s
>>>time 5+5
>>>
>>>    Motor               Punkte    Li   Cr   Cr   CM   Pa   Cr   Cr   Cr   Cr
>>>Cr    S-B
>>>01: List 5.12           24,0/36 ···· =011 =010 11=0 1001 1==1 1011 1110 =110
>>>1111  397,50
>>>02: Crafty 19.08 SE     24,0/36 =100 ···· ==== 01== ==== =111 =1=1 111= 1=1=
>>>11=1  389,75
>>>03: Crafty 19.12 SE     22,5/36 =101 ==== ···· =11= =010 ==01 10=1 1=01 111=
>>>==11  381,00
>>>04: CM8000 R1X          21,0/36 00=1 10== =00= ···· 1=== 001= =1== 1==1 =111
>>>111=  339,25
>>>05: Patriot 1.3.0       19,5/36 0110 ==== =101 0=== ···· =0=1 1=== =00= 1=11
>>>101=  339,50
>>>06: Crafty 17.14        17,5/36 0==0 =000 ==10 110= =1=0 ···· ==== 1=01 =111
>>>=0==  293,75
>>>07: Crafty Classic 2004 16,0/36 0100 =0=0 01=0 =0== 0=== ==== ···· 10=1 011=
>>>1=10  266,25
>>>08: Crafty 19.17 SE     13,0/36 0001 000= 0=10 0==0 =11= 0=10 01=0 ···· 0010
>>>0011  233,00
>>>09: Crafty 15.18        11,5/36 =001 0=0= 000= =000 0=00 =000 100= 1101 ····
>>>=101  190,75
>>>10: Crafty 11.23        11,0/36 0000 00=0 ==00 000= 010= =1== 0=01 1100 =010
>>>····  185,25
>>>
>>>180 Partien gespielt / Turnier beendet
>>>Name des Turniers: EngineMatch
>>>Ort/ Land: Vienna, Austria
>>>Level: Blitz 5/5
>>>Hardware: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3200+ 2219 MHz mit 1.023 MB Speicher
>>>Betriebssystem: Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
>>>PGN-Datei: E:\SCHACH\Arena\Tournaments\EngineMatch.pgn
>>>Webseite:
>>>E-Mail Adresse:
>>>
>>>regards
>>>Wilhelm
>>
>>
>>it would be nice to read an comment from DR. Robert Hyatt or Mike Byrne about
>>the strongest version.
>>In my tests Crafty Classic 2004 is much stronger than Crafty 19.17. An the
>>strange thing is, that Crafty 19.17 seems to be weaker than the other "old"
>>Crafty Versions (19.13 and 19.08).
>>
>>regards
>>Thomas
>
>Nothing strange.
>
>I read that every tester found that 19.17 is weaker.
>The problem is that it seems that Hyatt did not test Crafty under winboard or
>under interfaces that other use it.


Even on ICC, 19.17 is definitely weaker against other computers.  It's average
blitz rating has dropped a good 150 points or more since shortly after WCCC04,
which was the advent of the 19.16/17 versions.

After hearing other claims that 19.13 was stronger, I started a 100 game match
between 19.13 and 19.17 at 30 0.

19.13 is demolishing 19.17 with the score currently at 41 24 after 65 games.
This right after 19.16 vs 19.17 was virtually even after 100 games.

Something is seriously wrong with 19.17.



>
>Maybe it is better in text mode or in the special conditions that Hyatt use it
>but it seems that almost nobody use it in the conditions that Bob hyatt use it.
>
>Uri
>
>Uri



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