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Subject: Re: Strongest Crafty ? NOT 19.17

Author: Peter Berger

Date: 18:12:07 12/05/04

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On December 05, 2004 at 17:51:39, Matthew Hull wrote:

>On December 05, 2004 at 14:08:25, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On December 05, 2004 at 13:31:55, Thomas Gaksch wrote:
>>
>>>On December 02, 2004 at 17:21:21, Wilhelm Hudetz wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi all,
>>>>
>>>>what are your results with different Crafty versions?
>>>>19.08SE give me at the moment the best results, so I run a small
>>>>tourney to compare a little bit.
>>>>All SE-versions run with SE=on and standard personality.
>>>>
>>>>AMD3200
>>>>Arena-GUI
>>>>64mb hash
>>>>all using 8move.abk
>>>>3,4,5man tb´s
>>>>time 5+5
>>>>
>>>>    Motor               Punkte    Li   Cr   Cr   CM   Pa   Cr   Cr   Cr   Cr
>>>>Cr    S-B
>>>>01: List 5.12           24,0/36 ···· =011 =010 11=0 1001 1==1 1011 1110 =110
>>>>1111  397,50
>>>>02: Crafty 19.08 SE     24,0/36 =100 ···· ==== 01== ==== =111 =1=1 111= 1=1=
>>>>11=1  389,75
>>>>03: Crafty 19.12 SE     22,5/36 =101 ==== ···· =11= =010 ==01 10=1 1=01 111=
>>>>==11  381,00
>>>>04: CM8000 R1X          21,0/36 00=1 10== =00= ···· 1=== 001= =1== 1==1 =111
>>>>111=  339,25
>>>>05: Patriot 1.3.0       19,5/36 0110 ==== =101 0=== ···· =0=1 1=== =00= 1=11
>>>>101=  339,50
>>>>06: Crafty 17.14        17,5/36 0==0 =000 ==10 110= =1=0 ···· ==== 1=01 =111
>>>>=0==  293,75
>>>>07: Crafty Classic 2004 16,0/36 0100 =0=0 01=0 =0== 0=== ==== ···· 10=1 011=
>>>>1=10  266,25
>>>>08: Crafty 19.17 SE     13,0/36 0001 000= 0=10 0==0 =11= 0=10 01=0 ···· 0010
>>>>0011  233,00
>>>>09: Crafty 15.18        11,5/36 =001 0=0= 000= =000 0=00 =000 100= 1101 ····
>>>>=101  190,75
>>>>10: Crafty 11.23        11,0/36 0000 00=0 ==00 000= 010= =1== 0=01 1100 =010
>>>>····  185,25
>>>>
>>>>180 Partien gespielt / Turnier beendet
>>>>Name des Turniers: EngineMatch
>>>>Ort/ Land: Vienna, Austria
>>>>Level: Blitz 5/5
>>>>Hardware: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3200+ 2219 MHz mit 1.023 MB Speicher
>>>>Betriebssystem: Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
>>>>PGN-Datei: E:\SCHACH\Arena\Tournaments\EngineMatch.pgn
>>>>Webseite:
>>>>E-Mail Adresse:
>>>>
>>>>regards
>>>>Wilhelm
>>>
>>>
>>>it would be nice to read an comment from DR. Robert Hyatt or Mike Byrne about
>>>the strongest version.
>>>In my tests Crafty Classic 2004 is much stronger than Crafty 19.17. An the
>>>strange thing is, that Crafty 19.17 seems to be weaker than the other "old"
>>>Crafty Versions (19.13 and 19.08).
>>>
>>>regards
>>>Thomas
>>
>>Nothing strange.
>>
>>I read that every tester found that 19.17 is weaker.
>>The problem is that it seems that Hyatt did not test Crafty under winboard or
>>under interfaces that other use it.
>
>
>Even on ICC, 19.17 is definitely weaker against other computers.  It's average
>blitz rating has dropped a good 150 points or more since shortly after WCCC04,
>which was the advent of the 19.16/17 versions.
>
>After hearing other claims that 19.13 was stronger, I started a 100 game match
>between 19.13 and 19.17 at 30 0.
>
>19.13 is demolishing 19.17 with the score currently at 41 24 after 65 games.
>This right after 19.16 vs 19.17 was virtually even after 100 games.
>
>Something is seriously wrong with 19.17.
>

Given that this may be true IMO , you should go for 19.15. 19.15 is mostly
bugfixes compaired to 19.13, some of them quite serious.

In case I had to bet on a Crafty version, it would be 19.15 - this is also the
very WCCC version btw.



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