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Subject: Re: Program for Beginners?

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 03:21:52 12/06/04

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On December 05, 2004 at 23:12:56, D.B. Morris wrote:

>On December 05, 2004 at 22:40:46, Dan Andersson wrote:
>
>> That depends on what you mean by overwhelming.
>> If you mean simple to use then a program like Leen Ammeraals Queen that comes
>>with its own simple GUI as well as a WB engine might be OK.
>> OTOH, if you mean playing strength. Then TSCP with a low depth limit or The
>>Crazy Bishop with a node limit are good coices. Any WB engine with limitations
>>are good choices, BTW.
>>
>>MvH Dan Andersson
>
>
>Yes...a simple GUI and something that works with Windows XP...also the site for
>download would be good.  I've tried a couple (as seen in an earlier post for old
>programs) that gives XP a nervous breakdown. (Not overwhelming meaning at some
>level a beginner wins occasionally.  Some of the programs at depth 1 would be
>too strong for young children just starting).
>Thanks,
>dbm

Yes the problem is that they do qsearch.
I guess that a program that capture everytime that it can may be a good idea

For judging the playing strength you can watch the following game that not
public movei played against itself when I told it to return eval after 1 ply(no
qsearch and no static exchange evaluator).


[Event ""]
[Site ""]
[Date "2004.12.04"]
[Round "-"]
[White ""]
[Black ""]
[Result "1-0"]
[TimeControl ""]

1. Nc3 Nc6 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Ne5 Nxe5 4. d4 Nd3+ 5. Qxd3 Ne4 6. Qxe4 e5 7.
Qxe5+ Be7 8. Qxe7+ Qxe7 9. Bf4 Qxe2+ 10. Bxe2 d6 11. Bb5+ Bd7 12. Bxd7+
Kxd7 13. Bxd6 Rae8+ 14. Be5 Rxe5+ 15. dxe5 Re8 16. Rd1+ Ke6 17. Rd6+ cxd6
18. exd6 Kxd6+ 19. Ne4+ Rxe4+ 20. Kd2 Re2+ 21. Kxe2 f5 22. Rd1+ Ke5 23.
Rd5+ Kxd5 24. c4+ Kxc4 25. b3+ Kd4 26. f4 Ke4 27. g3 b5 28. b4 g6 29. a3 a6
30. h3 h6 31. h4 h5 32. Kd2 Kf3 33. Kd3 Kxg3 34. Ke3 Kxh4 35. Kf3 a5 36.
bxa5 b4 37. a6 bxa3 38. a7 a2 39. a8=Q a1=Q 40. Qxa1 Kh3 41. Qh1#
{White mates} 1-0

Uri



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