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Subject: Re: Microsoft Visual C++ 2005 beta for free

Author: martin fierz

Date: 08:43:58 12/10/04

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On December 10, 2004 at 11:40:04, Bo Persson wrote:

>On December 10, 2004 at 07:00:20, martin fierz wrote:
>
>>On December 10, 2004 at 06:44:07, Christophe Drieu wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>C/C++ Optimizing Compiler Version 14.00.40607.16 for 80x86
>>>
>>>http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/visualc/default.aspx
>>
>>
>>i have been using it for some months already - it's nice!
>>i'm looking forward to the release.
>>
>>a small :-( though: it is not the fully optimizing compiler they are making
>>available here. for me the code is a few % (2 or 3) faster than my visual studio
>>2002, but MS has new PGO options for the full visual studio i believe, and these
>>are not available in the express edition.
>>
>>cheers
>>  martin
>
>You can get the full Visual Studio version (Beta) as well, if you are willing to
> pay the postage for the DVD/CD-pack, about €5. This will also get you the
>64-bit compilers.
>
>Order it here:
>
>http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/vs2005/get/order/
>
>
>
>
>Bo Persson

is the PGO compiler included there?
i didn't want to get the vs beta, because i am sort of the ideal target audience
for the express products. i develop software as a hobby, not for commercial
reasons, and i like the idea of a simpler, cheaper but still powerful tool for
software development instead of the full VS - which can do a lot more than i
ever need, including many programming languages i never use.

cheers
  martin



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