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Subject: Re: What if BOTH programs were put on Brute Force?

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 16:00:19 12/10/04

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On December 10, 2004 at 17:48:31, Albert Silver wrote:

>On December 10, 2004 at 13:20:58, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On December 10, 2004 at 11:23:22, Dana Turnmire wrote:
>>
>>>Wouldn't it test the evaluation function?  Just a thought.
>>
>>I doubt if it is possible to tell programs to search to the same depth with
>>exactly the same extensions and the same pruning and even if it is possible then
>>better evaluation function does not mean a better program.
>>
>>The problem is that programs may never evaluate some types of unclear
>>positions in normal games thank to extensions  when they are forced to evaluate
>>them in fixed depth Brute force search.
>>
>>Uri
>
>Another problem is that it will favor the program that depends entirely on the
>evalaution function to produce quality moves. There is more than one approach to
>chess programming as is completely obvious, so imposing this sort of limit is to
>deliberately handicap the fast searchers that compensate their lack of
>"knowledge" by searching deeper. It's not unreasonable either if you remember
>the adage: "Chess is 99% tactics".
>
>                                             Albert

I do not think that fast searchers are always programs with faster evaluation.
I also think that there is some knowledge that is impossible to replace always
by going deeper(a piece may be trapped when many plies may be needed to capture
it and in part of the cases the capture of the piece can happen many plies after
the losing moves and programs without the right knowledge are unable to see it
even with a long search).

Uri



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