Author: Uri Blass
Date: 22:03:01 12/10/04
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On December 11, 2004 at 00:30:11, Uri Blass wrote: >On December 11, 2004 at 00:15:54, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On December 11, 2004 at 00:01:13, Les Fernandez wrote: >> >>>On December 10, 2004 at 22:15:09, Uri Blass wrote: >>> >>>>On December 10, 2004 at 21:47:46, Uri Blass wrote: >>>> >>>>>On December 10, 2004 at 21:06:42, Uri Blass wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On December 10, 2004 at 02:17:59, Les Fernandez wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On December 10, 2004 at 00:09:02, Uri Blass wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On December 09, 2004 at 23:57:26, Les Fernandez wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>On December 09, 2004 at 00:41:18, Uri Blass wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Here are results for default movei for the first 11 positions in the seond set >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Note that movei was not designed to solve mates and I am sure it could do >>>>>>>>>>clearly better than it in case that it was designed for that purpose. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>It gets a mate score in less than 62 seconds for everyone of them. >>>>>>>>>>The big number is the number of nodes and I also gave translation of the score >>>>>>>>>>to distance to mate. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>11 9987 371 2214115 mate in 7 d8g8 >>>>>>>>>>14 9985 5462 28819188 mate in 8 b5a4 >>>>>>>>>>14 9985 6195 32582992 mate in 8 b4a4 >>>>>>>>>>14 9985 5337 27793757 mate in 8 c4a4 >>>>>>>>>>14 9985 5728 29850523 mate in 8 d4a4 >>>>>>>>>>14 9985 6157 32404314 mate in 8 b3a4 >>>>>>>>>>14 9985 5748 30085900 mate in 8 c2a4 >>>>>>>>>>11 9987 548 2972896 mate in 7 e8e5 >>>>>>>>>>9 9987 195 978781 mate in 7 e7e1 >>>>>>>>>>6 9993 6 22984 mate in 4 e5a5 >>>>>>>>>>9 9987 160 836546 mate in 7 e4e1 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Uri >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Hi Uri, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>First thanks for giving it a go. What hardware are you running them on and do >>>>>>>>>you plan on running all of them? It is of interest to me to know the total time >>>>>>>>>it took to solve the set, but understand that is is rather time consuming. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Talk to you soon, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Les >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I used A3000 >>>>>>>>I will certainly not run all the positions manually. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I may do it automatically not based on fixed time but based on stopping when it >>>>>>>>finds mate but I need first to finish some tool to analyze epd file. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Uri >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Hi Uri, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I certainly can appreciate not doing it manually. Listen perhaps when you have >>>>>>>time you can just look at the first 10 positions of the second set of positions >>>>>>>since they were much more difficult. If you have trouble finding them I can >>>>>>>always repost them. Thanks for your time. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Les >>>>>> >>>>>>my results are for them and not for the easy positions. >>>>>> >>>>>>Uri >>>>> >>>>>I can add that I now test the easy positions automatically and it seems that >>>>>part of them are not so easy. >>>>> >>>>>I expected based on Antony that movei on A1000 will solve all of them in a short >>>>>time but it does not do it. >>>>> >>>>>I implemented function to analyze epd and not leave a position before mate >>>>>unless very long time was used and I test it with this function. >>>>> >>>>>The fact that there are a lot of easy problems does not mean that all of them >>>>>are easy and solving all the positions on p233 in less than a minute(not one of >>>>>them) is clearly a good result. >>>> >>>>correction >>>>I remembered wrong: >>>> >>>>Dann Corbit said: >>>>"There is a utility that computes all the answers in under a minute on a Pentium >>>>II, 166 MHz." >>>> >>>>There are not small number of cases when >>>>Movei on A1000 needs some minutes to solve positions in the set that was defined >>>>as the easy test. >>>> >>>>I see on the screen the following output that means that movei needed almost >>>>1000 seconds to solve one of the position and more than 700 seconds to solve >>>>another position(1000 seconds is the time limit that I gave movei to solve the >>>>positions and with more than 1000 seconds it should not search even if it finds >>>>no mate. >>>> >>>> 12 9983 98807 210114214 g4d4 a3e3 b8g3 f2g1 d4e3 g1h1 h3g2 h1g2 e3f2 g2h1 f8f5 >>>>e2f1 f5h5 f1h3 h5h3 f3h2 h3h2 >>>> >>>> 12 9983 73247 155531978 h4d4 a3e3 b8g3 f2g1 d4e3 g1h1 h3g2 h1g2 e3f2 g2h1 f8f5 >>>>e2f1 f5h5 f1h3 h5h3 f3h2 h3h2 >>>> >>>> 12 9983 14458 26428369 c3d4 a3e3 b8g3 f2g1 d4e3 g1h1 h3g2 h1g2 e3f2 g2h1 f8f5 >>>>2f1 f5h5 f1h3 h5h3 f3h2 h3h2 >>>> >>>> 12 9983 14318 26932012 d3d4 a3e3 b8g3 f2g1 d4e3 g1h1 h3g2 h1g2 e3f2 g2h1 f8f5 e >>>>2f1 f5h5 f1h3 h5h3 f3h2 h3h2 >>>> >>>>It seems that the positions are almost the same based on the pv and I suspect >>>>that the relevant tool that Dan Corbit used simply does not clear it's hash >>>>between positions. >>>> >>>>Uri >>> >>>Hi Uri, >>> >>>I must say first thank you for trying to solve these positions. When you are >>>done with however many you can I would also be interested in knowing how long >>>each ONE took to solve if you keep the output of the analyses. Good work Uri. >>> >>>Les >> >>Movei is still busy in mirror positions >> >>It seems that there was one unsolved position in the easy test in 1000 seconds. >>Unfortunately this version does not print the fen of the position in the screen >>so I will have to use the pv to pick the relevant position >> >>I detect based on the pv: >> >>quuen at g5 >>rook or queen at a6 >>bishop or queen at b1 >>king or queen(probably king) at f7 >>bishop or king at h6 >>knight at d7 >>bishop or queen at e7 >>rook king or queen at d8 >>rook or queen at f1 >>11 1139 33180 69023962 g5d5 a6e6 b1g6 f7g8 d5e6 g8h8 h6g5 d7f8 g5f6 e7f6 e6e8 d >>8e8 g6e8 f6e7 f1f5 b4c3 b2c3 >> >>now it seems that it has the mirror position under analyze and also has problems >>to finish depth 11. >> >>Uri > >The mirror position was solved but it seems that every position appear 4 times >because except mirrors the d-e mirroring there is the white-black mirroring. > >Movei is already running for almost 3 hours on these positions. >I do other things like posting at the same time but they do not cause big slow >down. > > 11 1139 22151 47686072 b5e5 h6d6 g1b6 c7b8 e5d6 b8a8 a6b5 e7c8 b5c6 d7c6 d6d8 e >8d8 b6d8 c6d7 c1c5 g4f3 g2f3 > 11 1139 88188 189632493 b5e5 h6d6 g1b6 c7b8 e5d6 b8a8 a6b5 e7c8 b5c6 d7c6 d6d8 >e8d8 b6d8 c6d7 c1c5 g4f3 g2f3 >12 1169 89243 191639687 b5e5 >12 1239 89281 191700782 b5e5 > 12 9983 90015 193452849 b5e5 h6d6 g1b6 c7b8 e5d6 b8a8 a6b7 a8b7 d6c7 b7a8 c1c4 >d7c8 c4a4 c8a6 a4a6 c6a7 a6a7 > >Uri I decided to stop when movei still did not analayze the following positions. The first position is example to position that is not easy. 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