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Subject: Re: Super Tournament III Final at 40/2hrs (Round 43 of 44 completed)

Author: Graham Banks

Date: 10:28:30 12/11/04

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On December 11, 2004 at 05:17:32, Sandro Necchi wrote:

>On December 11, 2004 at 04:33:08, Graham Banks wrote:
>
>>Athlon XP1900+
>>128mb hash or closest allowed for each engine
>>3,4,5 men tablebases
>>Ponder off
>>No learning
>>Engines using own books where able
>>List 512 using general.ctg
>>CM9000 Alliance using CM8000 book (manually converted)
>>CM10th Creep using powerbook with optimised settings
>>44 rounds at 40 moves in 2 hours repeating
>>
>>
>>
>>Standings after Round 43 of 44
>>
>>30.5	- Shredder 8
>>28.0	- Deep Junior 8
>>23.0	- Deep Fritz 8
>>21.5	- CM10th Creep
>>21.5	- CM9000 Alliance
>>21.5	- Pharaon 3.00b
>>21.0	- Hiarcs 9
>>19.5	- Ruffian 2.1.0
>>19.5	- Chess Tiger 15
>>19.0	- List 512
>>16.5	- Aristarch 4.50
>>16.5	- Pro Deo 1.0
>>
>>
>>
>>Games (Rounds 1-42) are for available for download through the following link:
>>http://www.utzingerk.com/banks/st_03_final.htm
>>Round 43 games will be available soon.
>>
>>Comments welcome as always,
>>Graham.
>>
>>
>>Round 44 pairings
>>
>>Shredder 8 v Deep Junior 8
>>Deep Fritz 8 v Hiarcs 9
>>Chess Tiger 15 v List 512
>>CM9000 Alliance v Pharaon 3.00b
>>CM10th Creep v Pro Deo 1.0
>>Aristarch 4.50 v Ruffian 2.1.0
>
>If we compare this tournament with the one where all the programs use the same
>book and we take the top 3 programs (Shredder 8, Deep Junior 8 and Deep Fritz 8)
>we see that with their own book they are on top of the score list, while without
>they are not.
>The only exception is Shredder 8.
>
>So, considering that powerbook is very wide and therefore the chances to "get
>damaged" by the book are high, the score of DF 8 and DJ 8 are not surprising me.
>Probably Shredder got not damaged the same getting playble variations and being
>able to win or not to loose.
>
>This is what I always stated because it came out from my tests 28 years ago and
>recently too.
>
>Sandro


Hi Sandro,

if you're referring to Ray's tournament at 40/2hrs, I think you need to wait
until more rounds have been played before you can draw a comparison. My gut
feeling is that there won't be much difference in the results. Remember also
that the powerbook is being used with optimised settings.

Regards, Graham.



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