Author: Sandro Necchi
Date: 10:56:36 12/11/04
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On December 11, 2004 at 13:28:30, Graham Banks wrote: >On December 11, 2004 at 05:17:32, Sandro Necchi wrote: > >>On December 11, 2004 at 04:33:08, Graham Banks wrote: >> >>>Athlon XP1900+ >>>128mb hash or closest allowed for each engine >>>3,4,5 men tablebases >>>Ponder off >>>No learning >>>Engines using own books where able >>>List 512 using general.ctg >>>CM9000 Alliance using CM8000 book (manually converted) >>>CM10th Creep using powerbook with optimised settings >>>44 rounds at 40 moves in 2 hours repeating >>> >>> >>> >>>Standings after Round 43 of 44 >>> >>>30.5 - Shredder 8 >>>28.0 - Deep Junior 8 >>>23.0 - Deep Fritz 8 >>>21.5 - CM10th Creep >>>21.5 - CM9000 Alliance >>>21.5 - Pharaon 3.00b >>>21.0 - Hiarcs 9 >>>19.5 - Ruffian 2.1.0 >>>19.5 - Chess Tiger 15 >>>19.0 - List 512 >>>16.5 - Aristarch 4.50 >>>16.5 - Pro Deo 1.0 >>> >>> >>> >>>Games (Rounds 1-42) are for available for download through the following link: >>>http://www.utzingerk.com/banks/st_03_final.htm >>>Round 43 games will be available soon. >>> >>>Comments welcome as always, >>>Graham. >>> >>> >>>Round 44 pairings >>> >>>Shredder 8 v Deep Junior 8 >>>Deep Fritz 8 v Hiarcs 9 >>>Chess Tiger 15 v List 512 >>>CM9000 Alliance v Pharaon 3.00b >>>CM10th Creep v Pro Deo 1.0 >>>Aristarch 4.50 v Ruffian 2.1.0 >> >>If we compare this tournament with the one where all the programs use the same >>book and we take the top 3 programs (Shredder 8, Deep Junior 8 and Deep Fritz 8) >>we see that with their own book they are on top of the score list, while without >>they are not. >>The only exception is Shredder 8. >> >>So, considering that powerbook is very wide and therefore the chances to "get >>damaged" by the book are high, the score of DF 8 and DJ 8 are not surprising me. >>Probably Shredder got not damaged the same getting playble variations and being >>able to win or not to loose. >> >>This is what I always stated because it came out from my tests 28 years ago and >>recently too. >> >>Sandro > > >Hi Sandro, > >if you're referring to Ray's tournament at 40/2hrs, I think you need to wait >until more rounds have been played before you can draw a comparison. My gut >feeling is that there won't be much difference in the results. Remember also >that the powerbook is being used with optimised settings. > >Regards, Graham. Hi Graham, I believe the list and score will not change at the end. I know, but still powerbook is made on human games and not a dedicated book. This is the difference. Regards Sandro
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