Author: Harald Faber
Date: 08:41:49 01/19/99
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On January 19, 1999 at 11:28:16, Enrique Irazoqui wrote: >>>I am very interested in this too. Genius 3( or 4/5/6, quite the same)is, I >>>think, quite a bit weaker than Junior 5, Hiarcs 7 and Tiger, for example. > >>IF weaker then I'd say not more than 20pts. > >Based on what? According to the SSDF, Junior 5 is 60 points stronger than Genius >5, both on P200MMX, and G5 is 16 points stronger than G3, both on P90s. In my Based on my observations. And based on margin of error. The SSDF is only based on few comp-human games from anno domini, the rest is comp-comp. Different story. >own tournament, J5 is getting 101 more Elo points than G6. Aside from all these >games, watching them play is quite revealing: Junior 5 is obviously stronger, >and if it were by only 20 points we wouldn't even notice. The number of games is still not much per program...wasn't it you telling me that 40 games between 2 programs is not much? ;-) >>As I already wrote, the top10 programs are equal strong, maybe Junior5 and Hiarcs7 another bit above. > >Again: why do you think so? Read above. >>Theyonly differ in style. > >Among other things. What you are saying is that chess programming did not >advance a bit in the last 5 years. I strongly disagree. Look at comp-comp >results, at Aegon results, at matches against world class players, at the >opinions expressed by Kramnik, Kasparov and Anand... Or else, watch them play >and you'll see. So you didn't get my point in G3-MCP7. HARDWARE plays an important role! Of course there are some programs that made significant progress, but that were in most cases the underdogs, the amateur programs. Exception is Hiarcs. >Alright, if this is what you truly believe, I'm ready to make a bet: I'll enter >Genius 3 in my tournament. If it scores at only 20 Elo under the top, you win. >If it scores worse than -50 under the top, I win. Now: what do we bet? You must >make it really worthwhile.... One thousand Euros? :) >Enrique Oops, a lot for me humble payed engineer.... Come to Paderborn and you'll see. :-) But I advice you to use the tournament book, nowadays no program adjusts for that old program and book. :-)
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