Author: Sandro Necchi
Date: 05:49:36 12/12/04
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On December 12, 2004 at 08:13:08, Frank Quisinsky wrote: >On December 12, 2004 at 07:58:58, Sandro Necchi wrote: > >Hi Sandro, Hi Frank, > >>Well, since 8 years I stop buying Intel processors mainly for chess as the AMD >>processors were, in my opinion going to get better (cheaper and faster) than >>Intel ones. Which became true recently. The Intel ones I used where only at >>work. > >Faster isn't OK in my opinion. >The Athlon system are fast (also clear for me) but 10% more or less isn't >important for the most customers. The new PIV generation is very fast, I have >here different programs which are faster on my Pentium IV Mobile Notebook with >2.67 if I compare only with Athlon 2.8 Barton. I agree on the notebook computers, but not on the desktop ones. To keep cool and silent the Intel fast processors is not that easy and if the cooling system does not work properly the processor is gone...and must be replaced. > >But look on your latest sentence :-) >I must daily work on my PC systems (of course, not only chess for the freeware >area) :-) > >Cheaper: >That is a big, a very big point! >AMD are not so expensive and a good reason why younger persons like Athlon >processors. This is a new generation and a big problem for Intel. Intel must go >the right way and have to make the processors more cheaper or Intel have a >generation problem! Well, Intel made several mistakes in the last 3 years. It has the power resouces it needs, but seems not willing to take AMD seriously. AMD is slowing down the new processors and frequency waiting Intel to bring something worth to do it...amazing... > >>Well, I must say that I never had problems with AMD even if the computer where >>placed in a warm room especially in summer. > >The combination from all what have to do with the temparature. >Not only problems with the processors, thinking on harddisk, cooler other >things. Exactly...3.8 GHz or 2.8 makes a lot of difference... > >>Considering that all my computers are going all the time I was quite satisfied >>with them. >> >>Recently my company hardware expert told me that he is now buying only AMD >>processors as more quiet and reliable. This is due to the high frequency of >>Intel last processors which make them less reliable if one uses them several >>hours every day. > >Oh, we have totally different computer experts :-) Just for your info our expert was a Intel fun until one year ago...after replacing many units due to the hot summer we had last year and not facing the same problems on the AMD ones, he changed his mind... >Same in the user selection we can read each day :-) I believe this is more made on past experience than today experience... > >My computer expert sayed (have the same opinion) I build each system and I have >to look for the best hardware constellation that booth systems works fine for >the customers. If a company with 20 systems for a network room with Athlon >processors (never heard this, but posssible, why not) the expert I know for sell >20 Athlons and try to find a good hardware combination. > >In my live I working in more as 30 network rooms, more as 10 machines are here. >All of them are Intel systems the most easy Celeron systems. > >>It seems to me that only the latest Centrino processor is worth for Intel, so it >>is hard for me to understand who is pushing for Intel processors recently. > >Not for me Sandro! >But I sayed it ... the Athlon processors are now clearly better if I compare >with the older Athlons, like 1.2, or 1.4 with a lot of problems. Athlons 1.2 or 1.4 are 4 years old systems...they were the first ones...now the best processor based on performance and cost all together (Pc desktop) is the AMD K7 Athlon (Barton) 3000+ If you take any Pc games magazine they report this... > >Just my opinion and experience. >> >>Sandro > >Best >Frank Sandro
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