Author: Raul Kukk
Date: 13:52:10 01/19/99
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On January 19, 1999 at 07:25:45, Harald Faber wrote: >On January 19, 1999 at 07:17:11, Ulrich Tuerke wrote: > >>>>>So now it is done, 40 games were played with the following result: >>>>> >>>>>Genius3-MCP7: 9.0-11.0 >>>>>MCP7-Genius3: 7.0-13.0 >>>>> >>>>>Sum: Genius3(!!) won 22-18. >>>>> >>>>>Conditions were: >>>>> >>>>>Genius3: AMD-K6-200, 32MB hash, tournament book (!) >>>>>MChessPro7.1: Intel166MMX, 40MB hash >>>>>(Genius3 had 50% speed advantage) >>>> >>>>This is not really a surprise. Genius3 was rated about 2410 on P90 by SSDF. Add >>>>another 90 to scale to P200/MMX and you see that G3 and MCP7 are very close, and >>>>that's what your match seems to indicate. >>> >>>OK, if one adds 90 points. But it was not what one could have expected because >>>the jump from 486/66->P90 was less than 60 points! >>>I'd have expected 50 pts which makes 2460 and 166MMX reduce max. to 2480 (MCP) >>>and therefore a close win for MCP. >>> >>>If you add 90 pts (!) for Genius3 P90->200MMX, it would be higher rated than >>>Genius5 in SSDF. :-))) >>>(I know, only 4 points but not as worse as one could expect by the huge version >>>number difference that should indicate major changes). >> >>I admit that an increase of 90 is probably an overestimate. If I remember >>correctly, Thoralf Karlsson obtained an average increase of 75. Nevertheless, >>the resulting numbers for P200/MMX will be rather close. Don't forget that you'd >>have to play hundreds of games in order to reliably verify a difference of the >>order of 40/50 ELO points. >> >>Uli > >I know. What I wanted to see was if "old" programs which are not tested on >actual hardware by SSDF is still able to compete with actual programs. > >Personally I say YES after this small match. > >And another point is that Genius3 does NOT seem to be weaker than Genius5. >So all guys searching a cheap but strong program look for Genius3 e.g. and let >it run on your fast PC. :-) It was not much surprising for me either.Even Genius2(so Genius 3)have good resaults against CM5500 (mostly winning fast-control games and probably equal at longer games)if useing faster PCs.Thx for this test(againstMCP)!!
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