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Subject: Re: Dann, did anyone get back to you how long it took to solve these ??

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 19:06:53 12/13/04

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On December 13, 2004 at 17:01:54, Uri Blass wrote:

>On December 13, 2004 at 15:00:08, Les Fernandez wrote:
>
>>On December 13, 2004 at 12:08:05, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On December 11, 2004 at 02:39:56, Les Fernandez wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi Uri,
>>>>
>>>>Well atleast I am not the only one with strange nocturnal habits. Thank you very
>>>>much for your input.  I guess we can say that it looks like 6 hours is a good
>>>>approximation as to how long it would take to solve these.
>>>
>>>It seems that my approximation was wrong.
>>>
>>>I now ran it on faster hardware and it could get all of them in slightly more
>>>than an hour.
>>>My estimate was that the position are the same difficulty but it seems that
>>>the last positions were easy positions.
>>>
>>>42/140 were solved in less than 0.01 seconds.
>>>69/140 were solved in less than 0.05 seconds
>>>80/140 were solved in less than 0.1 seconds
>>>81/140 are solved in less than 0.2 seconds
>>>83/140 are solved in less than 0.22 seconds
>>>84/140 are solved in less than 0.24 seconds per position so they were very easy
>>>to solve
>>>
>>>there are many positions that need depth 12 and more than 19 seconds.
>>>
>>>1b3rk1/pp4pp/1qp3n1/1P1p4/P2P4/R4NPb/3NBK2/3QR3 b - - bm b6d4 30.12 seconds
>>>1b3rk1/pp4pp/2p2qn1/1P1p4/P2P4/R4NPb/3NBK2/3QR3 b - - bm f6d4 36.96 seconds
>>>1b3rk1/pp4pp/2p3n1/1P1p4/P1qP4/R4NPb/3NBK2/3QR3 b - - bm c4d4 30.45 seconds
>>>1b3rk1/pp4pp/2p3n1/1P1p4/P2P1q2/R4NPb/3NBK2/3QR3 b - - bm f4d4 86.96 seconds
>>>1b3rk1/pp4pp/2p3n1/1P1p4/P2P2q1/R4NPb/3NBK2/3QR3 b - - bm g4d4 333.76 seconds
>>>1b3rk1/pp4pp/2p3n1/1P1p4/P2P3q/R4NPb/3NBK2/3QR3 b - - bm h4d4 247.09 seconds
>>>1b3rk1/pp4pp/2p3n1/1P1p4/P2P4/R1q2NPb/3NBK2/3QR3 b - - bm c3d4 43.39 seconds
>>>1b3rk1/pp4pp/2p3n1/1P1p4/P2P4/R2q1NPb/3NBK2/3QR3 b - -bm d3d4 44.65 seconds
>>>1b3rk1/pp4pp/2p3n1/1P1p4/P2P4/R4NPb/1q1NBK2/3QR3 b - - bm b2d4 43.35 seconds
>>>1b3rk1/pp4pp/2p3n1/1P1p4/P2P4/R4NPb/3NBK2/q2QR3 b - - bm a1d4 25.64 seconds
>>>1b3rk1/pp4pp/2p3n1/1P1p4/P2Pq3/R4NPb/3NBK2/3QR3 b - - bm e4d4 53.25 seconds
>>>1b3rk1/pp4pp/2p3n1/1P1p4/Pq1P4/R4NPb/3NBK2/3QR3 b - - bm b4d4 36.43 seconds
>>>1b3rk1/pp4pp/2p3n1/1P1pq3/P2P4/R4NPb/3NBK2/3QR3 b - - bm e5d4 75.50 seconds
>>>1b3rk1/pp4pp/2p3n1/1Pqp4/P2P4/R4NPb/3NBK2/3QR3 b - - bm c5d4 25.53 seconds
>>>
>>>1kr3b1/pp4pp/1n3p2/3qp1P1/4P2P/bPN4R/2KBN3/3RQ3 b - - bm d5e4 101.03 seconds
>>>1kr3b1/pp4pp/1n3p2/4p1P1/1q2P2P/bPN4R/2KBN3/3RQ3 b - - bm b4e4 319.87 seconds
>>>1kr3b1/pp4pp/1n3p2/4p1P1/2q1P2P/bPN4R/2KBN3/3RQ3 b - - bm c4e4 115.00 seconds
>>>1kr3b1/pp4pp/1n3p2/4p1P1/3qP2P/bPN4R/2KBN3/3RQ3 b - - bm d4e4 49.93 seconds
>>>1kr3b1/pp4pp/1n3p2/4p1P1/4P1qP/bPN4R/2KBN3/3RQ3 b - - bm g4e4 41.79 seconds
>>>1kr3b1/pp4pp/1n3p2/4p1P1/4P2P/bPN1q2R/2KBN3/3RQ3 b - - bm e3e4 25.14 seconds
>>>1kr3b1/pp4pp/1n3p2/4p1P1/4P2P/bPN2q1R/2KBN3/3RQ3 b - - bm f3e4 25.37 seconds
>>>1kr3b1/pp4pp/1n3p2/4p1P1/4P2P/bPN4R/2KBN1q1/3RQ3 b - - bm g2e4 29.40 seconds
>>>1kr3b1/pp4pp/1n3p2/4p1P1/4P2P/bPN4R/2KBN3/3RQ2q b - - bm h1e4 28.39 seconds
>>>1kr3b1/pp4pp/1n3p2/4p1P1/4Pq1P/bPN4R/2KBN3/3RQ3 b - - bm f4e4 26.61 seconds
>>>1kr3b1/pp4pp/1n3p2/4p1P1/q3P2P/bPN4R/2KBN3/3RQ3 b - - bm a4e4 216.29 seconds
>>>1kr3b1/pp4pp/1n3p2/4pqP1/4P2P/bPN4R/2KBN3/3RQ3 b - - bm f5e4 33.07 seconds
>>>1kr3b1/pp4pp/1n3pq1/4p1P1/4P2P/bPN4R/2KBN3/3RQ3 b - -bm g6e4 31.06 seconds
>>>1kr3b1/pp4pp/1nq2p2/4p1P1/4P2P/bPN4R/2KBN3/3RQ3 b - -bm c6e4 28.28 seconds
>>>
>>>
>>>3qr3/1Q1nbk2/r4npB/p2p4/1p1P4/2P3N1/PP4PP/1B3RK1 w - - bm b7d5 21.73 seconds
>>>3qr3/3nbk2/r1Q2npB/p2p4/1p1P4/2P3N1/PP4PP/1B3RK1 w - - bm c6d5 19.60 seconds
>>>3qr3/3nbk2/r2Q1npB/p2p4/1p1P4/2P3N1/PP4PP/1B3RK1 w - - bm d6d5 19.90 seconds
>>>3qr3/3nbk2/r4npB/p1Qp4/1p1P4/2P3N1/PP4PP/1B3RK1 w - - bm c5d5 22.14 seconds
>>>3qr3/3nbk2/r4npB/p2p1Q2/1p1P4/2P3N1/PP4PP/1B3RK1 w - - bm f5d5 74.89 seconds
>>>3qr3/3nbk2/r4npB/p2p2Q1/1p1P4/2P3N1/PP4PP/1B3RK1 w - - bm g5d5 381.17 seconds*
>>>3qr3/3nbk2/r4npB/p2p3Q/1p1P4/2P3N1/PP4PP/1B3RK1 w - - bm h5d5 242.93 seconds
>>>3qr3/3nbk2/r4npB/p2p4/1p1P4/1QP3N1/PP4PP/1B3RK1 w - - bm b3d5 26.31 seconds
>>>3qr3/3nbk2/r4npB/p2p4/1p1P4/2P2QN1/PP4PP/1B3RK1 w - - bm f3d5 31.50 seconds
>>>3qr3/3nbk2/r4npB/p2p4/1p1PQ3/2P3N1/PP4PP/1B3RK1 w - - bm e4d5 65.98 seconds
>>>3qr3/3nbk2/r4npB/p2p4/1pQP4/2P3N1/PP4PP/1B3RK1 w - - bm c4d5 24.09 seconds
>>>3qr3/3nbk2/r4npB/p2pQ3/1p1P4/2P3N1/PP4PP/1B3RK1 w - - bm e5d5 39.43 seconds
>>>3qr3/3nbk2/r4npB/pQ1p4/1p1P4/2P3N1/PP4PP/1B3RK1 w - - bm b5d5 27.14 seconds
>>>
>>>
>>>3rq2Q/2kbn3/Bpn4r/4p2p/4P1p1/1N3P2/PP4PP/1KR3B1 w - - bm h8e5 26.01 seconds
>>>3rq3/2kbn1Q1/Bpn4r/4p2p/4P1p1/1N3P2/PP4PP/1KR3B1 w - - bm g7e5 30.50 seconds
>>>3rq3/2kbn3/Bpn1Q2r/4p2p/4P1p1/1N3P2/PP4PP/1KR3B1 w - - bm e6e5 19.95 seconds
>>>3rq3/2kbn3/Bpn2Q1r/4p2p/4P1p1/1N3P2/PP4PP/1KR3B1 w - - bm f6e5 20.09 seconds
>>>3rq3/2kbn3/Bpn4r/1Q2p2p/4P1p1/1N3P2/PP4PP/1KR3B1 w - - bm b5e5 304.75 seconds
>>>3rq3/2kbn3/Bpn4r/2Q1p2p/4P1p1/1N3P2/PP4PP/1KR3B1 w - - bm c5e5 69.98 seconds
>>>3rq3/2kbn3/Bpn4r/3Qp2p/4P1p1/1N3P2/PP4PP/1KR3B1 w - - bm d5e5 51.69 seconds
>>>3rq3/2kbn3/Bpn4r/4p1Qp/4P1p1/1N3P2/PP4PP/1KR3B1 w - - bm g5e5 36.39 seconds
>>>3rq3/2kbn3/Bpn4r/4p2p/3QP1p1/1N3P2/PP4PP/1KR3B1 w - - bm d4e5 66.96 seconds
>>>3rq3/2kbn3/Bpn4r/4p2p/4P1p1/1N3PQ1/PP4PP/1KR3B1 w - - bm g3e5 26.00 seconds
>>>3rq3/2kbn3/Bpn4r/4p2p/4P1p1/1NQ2P2/PP4PP/1KR3B1 w - - bm c3e5 28.31 seconds
>>>3rq3/2kbn3/Bpn4r/4p2p/4PQp1/1N3P2/PP4PP/1KR3B1 w - - bm f4e5 24.48 seconds
>>>3rq3/2kbn3/Bpn4r/4pQ1p/4P1p1/1N3P2/PP4PP/1KR3B1 w - - bm f5e5 25.46 seconds
>>>3rq3/2kbn3/Bpn4r/Q3p2p/4P1p1/1N3P2/PP4PP/1KR3B1 w - - bm a5e5 234.23 seconds
>>>
>>>Q2qr3/3nbk2/r4npB/p2p4/1p1P4/2P3N1/PP4PP/1B3RK1 w - - bm a8d5 19.31 seconds
>>>
>>>It seems that the second test is harder
>>>I get
>>>32/168 in 0.01 seconds
>>>49/168 in 0.1 seconds
>>>51/168 in 0.2 seconds
>>>52/168 in 0.25 seconds.
>>>55/168 in 0.5 seconds
>>>56/168 in 1 seconds per position.
>>>
>>>
>>>Uri
>>>
>>
>>Hi Uri,
>>
>>Interesting information.  Listen on this second more difficult set would it be
>>inconvenient to take them a bit further? Perhaps up to 1 minute/position?  If
>>that is to time consuming I would take any additional info you can provide.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Les
>
>Hi Les,
>No problem with it.
>
>I already gave it more time but I am now not near the relevant computer.
>I will tell you information later about it.
>
>Uri

Movei solved all the position.

The version that I used was slightly slower than the fastest version but it
seems that it is not hard.

here are the results:
Movei solved all the positions at 10 minutes per position

The position that took the most time took 72.56 seconds.

2b4k/3n1Qp1/2pBpr2/1pnp4/8/2P2N1B/1P1N2PP/4R1K1 w - -

Uri



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