Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 17:06:12 01/19/99
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On January 19, 1999 at 19:13:24, Enrique Irazoqui wrote: >On January 19, 1999 at 16:10:31, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>Both. "ban" is (I assume) the latest version they want to test. Lonnie (and >>others) use junior 5 all the time. I am not doing badly against Junior at all, >>but when you factor in that my machine is around 4x faster than the hardware >>either is using. Which gives me a _really_ serious speed advantage (IE I am >>averaging about 700K-800K nodes per second on this machine most of the time.) >> >>Of all the programs I play (Lonnie seems to have 'em all) Junior 5 and 'ban' >>seem to be the strongest by a significant margin. IE against ban, just for >>the month of January (about 1/2 over) crafty has won 22, lost 11, drawn 18. > >At 700-800K N/s, on your machine Crafty runs 4 times faster than on my PII-400s >(typically 180-200K N/s). This +11 after 41 games, or nearly 100 Elo points, is >almost the expected increase in performance on a 4x machine. But at what time >control were these games played? Junior 5 is not a blitz specialist, or so I >thought when in my games it lost to Hiarcs 7 by 9-25 at game/5 on PII-400s. > >Enrique a dukes mixture of blitz and longer games... no 40/2 games however. But based on what I have seen I think junior is probably a killer at blitz... > >>I'd hope that my effective speedup of 2x-3x would produce a larger win/lose >>ratio than that. But it doesn't. Now if you believe, as I do, that faster >>hardware always improves a program, then the above is explainable and I would >>conclude that maybe Junior is stronger, _if_ it has equal hardware. If you >>believe (as some do) that we have reached 'tactical sufficiency' and faster >>hardware isn't important, then this result means something else entirely. I'm >>in the former camp, which I believe to be correct here. >> >>I can give other results if you are interested. Lonnie is too unpredictable >>nowadays, as last night he started a game with Zarkov, switched to wchess 2000, >>then to genius 6, all in the _same_ game. Who gets credit for winning or losing >>that mess? :) >> >>The most steady opponents are genius (6 now, 5 until recently), zarkov (run >>by John or Max) ea6pz (was rebel, now running genius 6), wchessx run by Dave >>or Max, and Ferret although Bruce has been taking time off for a month or so >>to rest and recuperate (this is not an 'easy' hobby if you really are serious >>about it.) :) >> >>But if you have a program you'd like results for against mine, let me know. I'm >>not embarassed to lose games and report 'em. Just remember my sledgehammer >>machine that will absolutely lay waste to a pentium 233 or 300 without giving it >>a moment's thought. :) _big_ hammers _can_ be useful. :) I got a big 'un at >>present...
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