Author: pavel
Date: 09:16:01 12/15/04
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On December 15, 2004 at 07:31:52, F. Huber wrote:
>On December 14, 2004 at 20:52:19, GeoffW wrote:
>
>>Hello Franz
>>
>>>>I´m really asking myself, how useful such specialized functions are,
>>>>while Arena is still crashing on _basic_ functions? :-(
>>
>>Looks like Frank had another attack of selective deafness :-)
>>I was wondering under what circumstances you get a crash of Arena ? Which
>>version and is it repeatable ?
>>I have to say it seems pretty solid to me now, maybe we are using it in
>>different ways ?
>>
>> regards Geoff
>
>Hello Geoff,
>
>you´re right that Arena is quite stable now in most of its functions,
>but there still are some problems and bugs -
>some of them I´ve already reported in the (old) Arena support forum
>(even more than once!) long time ago, but they still exist in the latest
>version I have (Arena 1.1 Prerelease).
>
>This Arena crash I mentioned above I´ve discovered about a week ago, when
>I tried to create a mate position. For this purpose I had to call the
>´setup board´ quite a lot of times, and suddenly Arena didn´t work any
>longer: no reaction when calling menu functions, disappearing of menu bar
>labels, and - when closing Arena - first an error message ("Access violation"),
>and after that Windows was completely unstable! I couldn´t even shut down
>Windows normally, because it was ´hanging´, so only a double Ctrl+Alt+Del
>was successful.
>And yes - this crashing is repeatable 100%, also for earlier versions like
>1.092pr or 1.07 I can reproduce it by the following simple procedure:
>1) start Arena
>2) call the ´setup board´ (the fastest was is Ctrl-B)
>3) close the ´setup board´ with ´Ok´ (no need to change the position at all)
>4) repeat steps 2) and 3) about 30-times!
>
1) tried it myself at windows xp, and had no problem
2) why would anyone want to open setup board and close it 30 times in a row
without changing anything? How is that practical? I tried it close to 60 times.
3) Maybe it's OS related. windows 98 is almost 7 year old os, and not the best
one either. I wouldn't be surprised in windows 98 crashes even if you don't do
anything at all.
Cheers,
pavs
>Here on my system (Win98/128MB, where about 64-70MB are free after having
>started Arena) it´s almost _exactly_ after "30-times" calling this ´setup board´
>(with the steps above), that Arena is in this unstable state -
>with more free memory than my 64-70MB it might be necessary to repeat this
>steps a little more often (maybe 40-45 times).
>
>Ok, I know that this problem wouldn´t happen too often for normal Arena users,
>but it´s definitely a bug in Arena (and IMO a serious one!).
>OTOH this is only _one_ of a longer list of bugs in Arena, that I have found
>in the last time, but since I´m no longer welcome in the new Arena forum
>(although having reported dozens of problems and bugs in the last years!),
>it´s now impossible for me to post such problems in this new forum.
>
>But - to say the truth - this isn´t really a big problem for me:
>With the current Arena team and their (more than) strange behaviour against
>the Arena users, I´ve finally decided to stop any further support of Arena
>by myself - I´ll probably switch back to one of the latest Arena versions
>(maybe 1.07) and live with the few bugs that still exist.
>And - not to forget - there are also some _very_ good alternative GUIs (with
>much less bugs!) like e.g. ShredderClassic ... ;-)
>
>Best regards,
>Franz.
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