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Subject: Re: What is new in Arena 1.1 GUI and what now ...

Author: Olivier Deville

Date: 20:46:26 12/18/04

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On December 18, 2004 at 18:53:47, Frank Quisinsky wrote:

>On December 18, 2004 at 18:31:04, Günther Simon wrote:
>
>Hi Günther,
>
>>I don't understand how your message refers to my Arena bug report?
>>May be you did not understand my message?
>>I explain it again for you: Some engines simply lose on time because
>>they have bugs and it has nothing to do with the GUI, you must live with
>>this fact and deleting their games is wrong!
>>Actually I was talking about exactly the opposite bug in Arena.
>>There are engines which _must_ lose on time because they have a bug
>>at certain time controls, but with the help of a bug _in_ Arena
>>they don't, thus Arena hides the problem and makes it even worse.
>>(details in my previous post - BTW it's easy to reproduce...)
>>
>>Guenther
>
>OK, if you send me the information I will look too.
>You can used the support form on the older webpage or my mail or you can add it
>in our Arena Support Forum on the new webpage.
>
>Thanks for your efforts!
>
>But let me say the following:
>After 30.000 games here I saw perhaps 20 games "loosed on time" without to see
>the reason. Of course I try not all of the 250 available engines but around 70.
>
>So I speak from 0,06% because the other mistakes I saw are mistakes from the
>engine programmers and this mistakes are solved by the engine programmers.
>
>But let me look in your bug report to say more.
>This would be help to solved a problem and if you saw a problem, after all the
>knowledge you have, I am sure we have a bug.
>
>Thanks and good night!
>Time for my bed!
>
>Best
>Frank

Hi Frank

I can confirm the bug described by Guenther.

Actually Arena helps a certain buggy engine to survive in heavy time trouble. A
lot of people could even see it in my live broadcasts.

There is no point in helping an engine to cheat.

You will get a bug report by mail soon.

Olivier



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