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Subject: Re: At what point will computer vs computer elo be all that matters???

Author: Joachim Rang

Date: 06:16:14 12/19/04

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On December 18, 2004 at 17:13:36, Derek Paquette wrote:

>By reputation alone, I can say that
>
>Hiarcs 9
>Deep Fritz 8
>Junior series
>
>are all great programs vs humans,
>
>I can also say that by reputation alone,
>
>Shredder 8 is not as good vs humans as it is vs computers,
>
>So I have to ask the question, at what point will there be no distinctive
>difference between the two?  If Shredder 9 comes onto the market and stomps
>other programs like both its predecessors, why would it not stomp humans just
>the same?  Its obviously outmanouvering other programs, what is so different
>about its style that is almost "transparent" to humans?  Or is this all
>'reputation' and not actual fact?  It just seems weird to me that a program can
>defeat another program that can crush a human, yet cannot do well vs humans
>
>anyway,
>Shredder 9 will surely be stronger than shredder 8, so what do people expect of
>shredder 9 in the area of fighting humans?
>
>Peter Skinner especially feels that shredder is 'weaker' than other programs vs
>humans, i'd be interested as to what he has to say, and others aswell
>
>-Derek paquette


I disagree. From which data do you conclude that Shredder is weak against
humans? As far as I know Shredder never played a 2700-heavyweight, so it was
never in the position to show its superiority.

Based on which data do you build up your mind?

regards Joachim



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