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Subject: Re: Bug or feature ? Opinions needed

Author: Frank Quisinsky

Date: 06:29:47 12/19/04

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On December 19, 2004 at 08:34:30, Roger Brown wrote:

>>After all my knowledge:
>>If a person found a bug we have a bug report in our support forum or we got it
>>by mail (we have no problem with it to discuss in an open way to bugs, one of
>>the success secrets from Arena Chess GUI). The group of trouble makers like it
>>to set bug reports (the most aren't bug) in three or four different fora. For
>>what a reason ... a simple question each normal user can answer in selfwork
>
>
>Hello Frank,
>
>I normally do not respond to your posts but this is an unpleasant exception.

>You do realise that by responding here in this fashion you give the distinct
>impression that Olivier is a troublemaker?


Olivier is a trouble maker?
I have spoke to Olivier?
You are sure?

I am sure that I don't have say that Olivier is a trouble maker.

OH, I won ...
A make a bet and I won :-)

Nice weekend, have a lot of fun here ...
Hope you too!

Arena is a long time not a topic here!

Sorry, but know I have to do a little bit around Arena!
Different are working for a good results, other do it "only" with "WORDS".
What are words and names in WWW ...

But to have a result is much more interesting.

Best
Frank

>I am sure that was not your intention.  Perhaps your self-confessed discomfort
>with the language (English) causes you to phrase your sentences somewhat
>clumsily.
>
>:-)
>
>Besises that, please realise that your gui - a really good one I might add - has
>flaws.  All software does.  Your response generally is not one to encourage
>feedback.  Think about it for a moment.  Users are consuming their time, energy
>and computer resources to use your gui.  They are reporting problems.
>
>You are the net beneficiary of those comments, wherever they are made.
>
>Chessbase probably learns more about their software's shortcomings here than
>from e-mails because the power users of Chessbase gui seem to frequent this
>forum.
>
>Olivier has been a user and uabashed admirer of your gui.  I suggest that you
>encourage instead of discourage.
>
>>The second step is to find out the bug!
>>And here we have a problem, no information about the bug :-)
>>No mails from other users about such a bug ... where are the 100.000 downloaders
>>with bug messages if Arena don't work :-)
>
>
>I have a few bugs I have found but guess what, the abuse, innuendo and name
>calling is not worth it.
>
>
>>
>>I don't like negative publicity, don't support it but of course the Arena GUI is
>>more and more popular and we have to say thanks to the problem makers :-)
>
>
>
>Do you see what I mean?  Criticise Arena and you are a trouble-maker?  Microsoft
>Windows is one of the most reviled pieces of operating software in history.  Are
>the critics troublemakers?
>
>
>
> This
>>is what I cann't understand, trouble makers try to make troubles with the result
>>that our GUI is more popular. This I wrote in the latest six years five trouble
>>makers by mail and four of the trouble makers send as answer "Arschloch". :-))
>
>
>
>There you go again with the names.  Was Olivier one of the troublemakers?
>Should the answer be no then of what relevance is this comment?
>
>
>>At the moment I don't have such bug reports but after the
>>knowledge I have is all possible because ... the GUI is too complex. The reason
>>that Martin Blume have in the latest year the biggest interest to find out the
>>bugs. Where are the persons in the latest year which reported after the release
>>bugs, never read in mails or our fora?
>
>
>Keep in mind that there are more users of Arena than there are persons
>registered on your forum.  I certainly am not going to register.  I am unsure
>that sending reports to you or your support team would be greeted with clinical
>detachment based on your answers here.  You therefore inhibit the very thing you
>need to egt in order to improve Arena.
>
>
>>
>>Of each good questions we can give a good answer :-)
>>
>>And yes:
>>We can speak about the "bug" if the programmer made a mistake.
>>But if the programmer have an other opinion we cann't speak about a bug.
>>A lot of users have to learn it!
>
>
>
>No Frank, we do not *have* to do anything.  Think about it.
>
>
>Later.



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