Author: Dann Corbit
Date: 17:12:52 12/21/04
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On December 21, 2004 at 12:34:04, Jason Kent wrote:
>I have been playing this opening on FICS alot and have been getting some easy
>wins with white. It is a great opening to prepare for a tourney game. :) There
>are so many ways black can go wrong.
>
>1.e4 e5 2.Bc4 Nf6 3.Nf3 Nxe4 4.Nc3 Nxc3 5.dxc3
>
>rnbqkb1r/pppp1ppp/8/4p3/2B5/2P2N2/PPP2PPP/R1BQK2R b KQkq - 0 5
>
>Black to move. Does your engine like f6? The books for Shredder 8 and Wael
>Deeb's Wizard v4 for arena have f6 as the mainline. Shredder's book even has c6
>noted bad (c6?) in the opening book.
>
>Why do Shredder 8 and my CM9_Slayer prefer c6 by a large margin? And is either
>move really superior.
Here is Shredder 7.04 after a couple hours --> likes c6 best.
If it is bad, then that is why it had to be marked in the book. Even after a
very long think, that is the move that Shredder is going to choose from 2
seconds forward (for who knows how long).
Analysis from E:\f6.epd
12/21/2004 1:58:52 PM Level: 99999 Seconds
Analyzing engine: Shredder 7.04 UCI
1) f6;
Searching move: f7-f6
Best move (Shredder 7.04 UCI): c7-c6
Not found in: 27:46:39
illegal command
2/5- 00:00 56 448 -0.63 d7d6 00
2/5 00:00 99 792 -0.97 d7d6 00
3/9 00:00 555 3.936 -0.92 d7d6 Nf3g5 f7f5
3/9+ 00:00 761 5.397 -0.91 Nb8c6 Bc4xf7+ Ke8xf7 Qd1xd7+ Bc8xd7
3/9+ 00:00 830 5.886 -0.56 Nb8c6 Bc4xf7+ Ke8xf7 Qd1xd7+ Bc8xd7
3/11 00:00 1.069 6.852 -0.56 Nb8c6 Nf3g5 f7f5
4/6- 00:00 1.751 11.224 -0.96 Nb8c6 Nf3g5 e5e4 Ng5xe4
4/9 00:00 2.544 14.790 -1.16 Nb8c6 Qd1d5 Qd8f6 00
4/11+ 00:00 3.539 20.575 -1.15 d7d6 Nf3g5 f7f6 Qd1xd6 c7xd6
4/13 00:00 4.205 22.486 -0.96 d7d6 Nf3g5 f7f6 Bc4f7+ Ke8e7
5/10- 00:00 5.720 30.588 -1.21 d7d6 Nf3g5 Bf8e7 Ng5xf7 a7a5
5/15 00:00 13.726 62.675 -1.60 d7d6 Nf3xe5 Bc8e6 Bc4xe6 f7xe6
5/15+ 00:00 14.783 67.502 -1.59 Nb8c6 Qd1d5 Qd8f6 00
5/15 00:00 16.791 71.756 -1.34 Nb8c6 Nf3g5 d7d5 Bc4xd5 f7f5
5/15+ 00:00 19.038 76.152 -1.33 Bf8c5 00 f7f6 Qd1xd7+ Bc8xd7 Bc4f7+
Ke8xf7
5/15+ 00:00 20.693 77.793 -0.98 Bf8c5 00 00 Qd1xd7 Bc8xd7
5/15 00:00 22.928 86.195 -0.94 Bf8c5 00 00 Bc1g5 Qd8e8
6/18- 00:00 35.289 118.818 -1.19 Bf8c5 Qd1d5 f7f6 Qd5xc5
6/18 00:00 42.960 130.975 -1.30 Bf8c5 Qd1d5 Qd8e7 00 d7d6 Bc1g5 Qe7e6
6/18+ 00:00 63.638 169.701 -1.29 Bf8e7 Nf3xe5 00 00 d7d6 Qd1xd6 c7xd6
Bc4xf7+ Rf8xf7
6/20+ 00:00 72.625 185.741 -0.94 Bf8e7 Nf3xe5 00 00 d7d6 Qd1xd6 c7xd6
Bc4xf7+ Rf8xf7
6/20 00:00 81.061 199.657 -0.62 Bf8e7 Nf3xe5 00 00 d7d6 Ne5g4 Bc8e6
7/23 00:00 127.330 254.660 -0.61 Bf8e7 Nf3xe5 00 Qd1f3 Be7f6 Qf3d5
Qd8e7 Bc1f4
8/27 00:01 290.919 358.274 -0.48 Bf8e7 Nf3xe5 00 00 d7d6 Ne5xf7 Rf8xf7
Bc4xf7+ Kg8xf7 Rf1e1
9/26 00:01 501.424 411.340 -0.55 Bf8e7 Nf3xe5 00 Bc4xf7+ Rf8xf7 Ne5xf7
Kg8xf7 Qd1d5+ Kf7f8 00 c7c6 Qd5h5
10/19- 00:01 694.784 431.811 -0.80 Bf8e7 Nf3xe5 00 Qd1f3 Be7f6 Ne5g4
Qd8e7+ Bc1e3 b7b5 Qf3xa8 Qe7xe3+ f2xe3
10/28 00:02 846.085 455.129 -0.87 Bf8e7 Nf3xe5 00 Qd1f3 Be7f6 Ne5g4
Bf6e7 00 d7d5 Bc4d3 c7c5
10/28+ 00:02 1.237.882 474.466 -0.86 c7c6 Nf3xe5 d7d5 Bc4d3 Bf8d6 Qd1h5
g7g6 Qh5f5 Bc8xf5
10/28+ 00:03 1.440.061 490.316 -0.51 c7c6 Nf3xe5 d7d5 Bc4d3 Bf8d6 Qd1h5
g7g6 Ne5xg6 f7xg6 g2g3 g6xh5
10/29 00:04 2.083.975 503.254 -0.24 c7c6 Nf3xe5 d7d5 00 Bf8d6 Rf1e1 00
Bc4b3 Rf8e8 Bc1f4 f7f6 Ne5d3 Re8xe1+ Qd1xe1
11/28 00:06 3.185.869 513.601 -0.23 c7c6 Nf3xe5 d7d5 00 Bf8d6 Rf1e1 00
Bc4b3 Qd8h4 Ne5f3 Bd6g3 Nf3xh4 Bg3xh2+
12/29 00:11 5.686.549 521.414 -0.17 c7c6 Nf3xe5 d7d5 00 Bf8d6 Rf1e1 00
Bc4d3 f7f6 Ne5f3 Nb8d7 c3c4 Rf8e8 Re1xe8+ Qd8xe8 c4xd5 c6xd5
13/29 00:18 9.487.326 523.901 -0.24 c7c6 Nf3xe5 d7d5 00 Bf8d6 Rf1e1 00
Bc4d3 Nb8d7 Bc1f4 Nd7xe5 Bf4xe5 Bd6xe5 Re1xe5
14/31 00:33 17.624.755 525.375 -0.30 c7c6 Nf3xe5 d7d5 00 Bf8d6 Rf1e1 00
Bc4d3 Nb8d7 Ne5xd7 Bc8xd7 Qd1h5 g7g6 Qh5h6 Qd8b6 Ra1b1
15/39 01:23 44.349.529 530.040 -0.13 c7c6 Nf3xe5 d7d5 00 Bf8d6 Rf1e1 00
Bc4d3 Nb8d7 Bc1f4 Bd6xe5 Bf4xe5 Nd7xe5 Re1xe5
16/36- 01:45 55.313.422 525.857 -0.38 c7c6 Nf3xe5 d7d5 00 Bf8d6 Rf1e1 00
Bc4d3 Nb8d7 Bc1f4 Bd6xe5 Bf4xe5 Nd7xe5 Re1xe5 Bc8e6 Qd1h5 Qd8h4 Qh5xh4
16/37 02:29 79.069.574 529.336 -0.38 c7c6 Nf3xe5 d7d5 00 Bf8d6 Rf1e1 00
Bc4d3 Nb8d7 Bc1f4 Nd7f6 h2h3 Rf8e8 Ne5d7 Qd8xd7 Qd1e2
17/45 06:08 194.232.879 527.292 -0.30 c7c6 Nf3xe5 d7d5 00 Bf8d6 Rf1e1 00
Bc4d3 Nb8d7 Ne5xd7 Bc8xd7 Qd1h5 f7f5 c3c4 Qd8a5 Bc1e3
18/47 14:22 445.347.342 516.550 -0.28 c7c6 Nf3xe5 d7d5 00 Bf8d6 Rf1e1 00
Bc4d3 Nb8d7 Ne5xd7 Bc8xd7 Qd1h5 f7f5 c3c4 Qd8a5 Bc1e3
19/53 30:21 926.846.522 508.815 -0.33 c7c6 Nf3xe5 d7d5 00 Bf8d6 Rf1e1 00
Bc4d3 Nb8d7 Ne5xd7 Qd8xd7 Qd1h5 h7h6 Bc1g5 Qd7g4 Qh5xg4 Bd6c5 Bg5e3
20/53 1:13:48 2.269.167,057 512.482 -0.26 c7c6 Nf3xe5 d7d5 00 Bf8d6 Rf1e1 00
Bc4d3 Nb8d7 Ne5xd7 Bc8xd7 Qd1h5 f7f5 Bc1e3 Qd8e8
21/57 2:45:00 5.020.276,636 507.092 -0.25 c7c6 Nf3xe5 d7d5 00 Bf8d6 Rf1e1 00
Bc4d3 Nb8d7 Ne5xd7 Bc8xd7 Qd1h5 f7f5 c3c4 Qd8a5 Bc1e3
12/21/2004 4:54:41 PM, Time for this analysis: 02:55:43, Rated time: 27:46:39
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