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Subject: Re: Has there been any discussion about CSS 6/2004 sensation article??

Author: Helmut Conrady

Date: 12:49:04 12/22/04

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On December 22, 2004 at 13:50:06, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On December 22, 2004 at 08:03:27, Helmut Conrady wrote:
>
>>On December 22, 2004 at 04:18:33, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On December 22, 2004 at 02:04:10, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hopp oder top – Steigern Tablebases die Spielstärke?
>>>>Helmut Conrady untersucht in einem sehr breit angelegten Test die Auswirkungen
>>>>der Tablebases auf die Spielstärke von Schachprogrammen. Die Ergebnisse sind –
>>>>gerade auch für viele Programmierer – äußerst überraschend!
>>>>
>>>>Summary in english after reading article yesterday: after 1000s of games with
>>>>different levels and engines tablebases seems to have always NEGATIVE effect
>>>>on playing strength!! No doubt at all! Uri can easily forget implementing now..
>>>>
>>>>Jouni
>>>
>>>I do not see how they can have negative effect if they are probed only in the
>>>right conditions.
>>
>>So Stefan Meyer-Kahlen, Mark Uniacke, Dieter Buerssner and others are wrong. Can
>>you do better? :-)
>>
>>Helmut
>
>If it is correct that your conclusion was that EGTB's are not useful, then it's
>not Uri who is wrong but you.
>
>Stefan doesn't post here a lot but he would prefer to lose 1 arm instead of
>playing without EGTB's at the world champs. Either blitz or tournament.
>
>How you can draw this conclusion is a mystery to me.

It s a big mystery to me how you know, what conclusions I have drawn without
reading the article. Read it, and then we can go on.

Helmut



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