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Subject: Re: Search extention

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 21:24:31 12/24/04

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On December 24, 2004 at 18:25:40, Uri Zlatnik wrote:

>On December 24, 2004 at 14:17:36, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On December 24, 2004 at 12:52:55, Pallav Nawani wrote:
>>
>>>On December 23, 2004 at 14:03:34, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 23, 2004 at 13:12:45, Pallav Nawani wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On December 23, 2004 at 06:25:20, Uri Zlatnik wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>How is the search extension of a software improved? Does this have to do with
>>>>>>alpha-beta pruning methods?
>>>>>
>>>>>I am not sure what you mean here, so I'll pass this one.
>>>>>
>>>>>>For example CM 10th edition (the King engine) has longer search extension than
>>>>>>Fritz 8 but it doesn't always find the best move.
>>>>>
>>>>>Search extensions are mainy good for tactical moves. If a positional move is the
>>>>>best one, then evaluation is also of importance. Also, no engine can always find
>>>>>the best move!
>>>>
>>>>The position that Uri Zlatnik posted was only about tactics and not about
>>>>positional moves.
>>>>
>>>>Uri
>>>
>>>Well, maybe he was talking about some tactical position in some other thread,
>>>but I haven't read that one, and he did not specify any position here.
>>
>>He talked about tactical position in the following thread
>>
>>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?402041
>>
>>He claimed that it is a positional problem but when you look at the position it
>>is clearly about tactics and not about positional evaluation.
>>
>>Uri
>
>True the variant is mostly tactical but some basic understanding of the pawn
>structures is also required for this.
>
>The problem with chess softwares is that they do not play a move until the full
>variant is calculated. The problem is that some variants might even be as long
>as 15 moves (30 plies).

30 plies is no problem for programs with the right extensions.
The problem is not having the right extensions.

I guess singular extensions to help here.
Deep Sjeng has singular extensions so it may be interesting to try it.

Uri



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