Author: Uri Blass
Date: 12:41:41 12/25/04
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On December 25, 2004 at 09:26:57, Albert Silver wrote: >On December 25, 2004 at 09:16:14, Norm Pollock wrote: > >>On December 25, 2004 at 08:32:14, Roger Brown wrote: >> >>>On December 25, 2004 at 08:12:00, Norm Pollock wrote: >>> >>>>Winboard Forum has been the subject of ongoing harassment. They even changed to >>>>a different format recently due to this situation. It would not surprise me if >>>>it turns out that the "illegal link" to the A-site was placed by the same person >>>>who made the complaint to the provider. Whether or not that person is part of >>>>the Arena team is unknown. It would be nice if the Arena team give us their side >>>>of the story vs the winboard forum. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>Hello Norm, >>> >>>I do not often disagree with you on the facts as you are mostly very thorough >>>with your handling of them. >>> >>>:-) >>> >>>I would submit that it is the Winboard team who has not given their side. >>>Perhaps we should change that. You can send an e-mail. I doubt very much that >>>this is an on topic issue here and I am not going to contribute to further >>>flames.... >>> >>>Incidentally, have a look at the offending links which were posted and who >>>posted them. They are still there. They do not work but they are still there. >>> >>>:-/ >>> >>>Later. >> >> >>Roger, >> >>You give me too much credit for being thorough handling facts. ;-) >> >>I do see lots of Arena 1.1 download links on the WF site. They were put into 2 >>threads by one user who appears to be connected to the Arena team. At least some >>of the links in the 2 threads are still working. I do not see any links on the >>website itself. >> >>I really don't understand what the conflict is. A forum user posts download >>links and someone complains to the provider claiming the links are illegal. > >As far as I understood, the complaint wasn't of the download links, but of >accessing and hacking the site. If this is the case forbiding arena links in the winboard forum is not productive to save the winboard forum. I also fail to see how it is productive to ban the arena team even if their complain is not justified. I am not for closing the winboard forum and I will be happy to read some post that explain how the steps that volker did can help to save the winboard forum. Note that I decided even not to try to join the arena forum not because the fact that they asked personal details but because of what I read about the way that they treat other people. The last forum was closed after a lot of personal attacks. Later it seems to me that there are people that they simply hate regardless of what they do. I remember a post that said to peter skinner that they will not give him the right to host arena in his site in a million years when they give it to other people. They have the right to do it but it seems to me an hate decleration and it gives the impression that peter skinner did something unforgivable. There are extreme cases of crimes that no money will be enough to compensate for them but if somebody did not do a crime like that I see no reason to say some message that means "we always hate you regardless of what you do". Even stealing is something that I can forgive(at least in case that I believe that the thief is really sorry for his actions and pay enough money to give back more than what he stole without trying to escape the agreed punishment of the law for his actions). Uri
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