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Subject: Re: About ELO rating of some Byrne's (Crafty) personalities

Author: Javier Gamero

Date: 15:00:21 12/25/04

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Thanks for the useful answers.

I have looked in "Selective Search" ratings and Shredder 7.04 is around 2700 at
1000MHz (it seems a bit high), so in your dual machine (2x1.7GHz) it must be
around 2800, and then Crafty at full speed must be about 2600. It is probably a
bit high, you did a "wild" estimation of 2550 USCF ant it could be aprox 2450
(FIDE). So I "prefer" your 2450 value as a first approx.

I have a problem with "intensity" scaling. At int=1 and at int=50 you think
Crafty is performing 1200-1300 and 1500-1600 respectively. It translate nicely
at the usual rule 100 points per treble speed. Being 1500-1600 similar to your
own ELO, I'd put pretty much confidence in those values (being aware that they
are approximations anyway).

The problem is the jump from int=50 to int=10000 (full strength?). It *doesn't*
translate nearly well to Crafty's real ELO. If int=50 is ~1550 ELO, int=10000
would be around 2080 ELO, hundreds of point below its real full strength. This
suppose almost 200 ELO per treble speed! (or almost 120 ELO for double speed!).
It looks unreasonable, something is "happening" here.

Why is so much difference between int=50 and int=10000? That diff is too big for
being explained just by any slowness the new "intensity" code can produce even
at 10000. Do you have any data about the nodes-per-sec Crafty is doing at those
intensity values? (In my GUI, Crafty doesn't show NPS count when using
"intensity").

My ELO is similar to 1600 as well, so I cannot test usefully what level of
strength Crafty has with int=10000, but I can try a doubly approximative
estimation using some CM personalities :-) . But I know two chained
approximations can lead at one coarse result.



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