Author: Peter Skinner
Date: 18:06:31 12/25/04
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Well Uri, In light of your post and I understand your reasoning behind it, there is more here than meets the eye. The Arena team made a complaint at my webhost about having Arena there for download. That was fine. The problem was they stated something _completely_ different from their actual copyright. My account was suspended (I had no clue it was), the offending file was deleted and my account was restored. After speaking with my provider and showing them the _actual_ copyright in place, they have come to the conclusion that I am not in the wrong. See here: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mr.Skinner, After reviewing the complaint and resulting actions taken against your account has been reconsidered thanks to the information you supplied from the complainant’s website. We reviewed your site, found it to be of non-commercial foundation thus falls with in the scope of the author's non-commercial licensing scheme. Information collected from the two individuals that reported piracy against you conflicted with each other. Mr. Christopher Conkie, the apparent webmaster of the Arena project stated that Arena was not allowed to be distributed without the express written permission of the author a Mr. Martin Blume. Once we reviewed the copyrights listed on the Arena website it was clear that your website falls into the category of 'non-commercial' use. Under their copyright for that section, distribution rights are automatically granted as long as the distributor is not selling or making money from the Arena program. The second complaint from a Mr. Frank Quinsky alleged that you were distributing a non-public beta version of the Arena program that contained 'partner' programs inclusive. We examined the file removed from your website against the file located on the Arena website and found them to be identical. Also we found no 'partner' programs. It is also a public version, and also it not a beta of the Arena program. Both complaints after review appear to be false on pretense. This department has also informed the complainant of this and that no further action will be taken unless the copyright is changed to state clearly what distribution methods are allowed by non-commercial sites. We apologize for the actions taken against you in this matter. Your request to have the actual complaint emails forwarded to you has been denied. We would like to see this matter stop involving UKInternet. There is an underlying agenda by all parties involved and we would like nothing of it. We hope you understand this decision. Please contact us if you have any further questions or concerns. The UKInternet Abuse Team ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I would also post the one from my ISP but I am still in the process of finding out what the complaint alleges. Apparently I am involved in a scheme to 'hack' the Arena website with other members from a "Computer Chess group". Again a bunch of bull***t. Would you honestly want these people around making claims against your ISP because you have something negative to say about the Arena program, or the actions of the people involved? Personally I wish I could by Volker a beer. He deserves it. He has done nothing that Conkie hasn't done time and time again. If you don't want to post on the Winboard forums that is unfortunate, but please do it for a better reason than Conkie and Quinsky... Peter
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