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Subject: Re: How many programs find 14. ...Nxe4

Author: Laurens Winkelhagen

Date: 09:00:13 12/27/04

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On December 27, 2004 at 01:24:26, Kurt Utzinger wrote:

>On December 26, 2004 at 23:06:19, Dan Ellwein wrote:
>
>>here's the game...
>>
>>P3/850
>>
>>Fischer Time: 10/10
>>
>>[Event ""]
>>[Site ""]
>>[Date "2004.12.26"]
>>[Round ""]
>>[White "Chessmaster 10th Ed."]
>>[Black "offset.a5.5"]
>>[TimeControl "600+10"]
>>[Result "0-1"]
>>[ECO "oft "]
>>
>>1.c4 g6 2.d4 Bg7 3.Nc3 d6 4.Nf3 Nc6 5.e3 Nf6 6.d5 Ne5 7.Nxe5 dxe5 8.e4 c6 9.Be2
>>O-O 10.O-O cxd5 11.cxd5 e6 12.Bg5 h6 13.Bh4 g5
>>14.Bg3
>>
>>[d]r1bq1rk1/pp3pb1/4pn1p/3Pp1p1/4P3/2N3B1/PP2BPPP/R2Q1RK1 b - - 0 14
>>
>>14. ...Nxe4!?
>
>      Hi Dan
>      A very interesting positional sacrifice to get a strong
>      pawn center. I however doubt that you will find another
>      engine to play this move without changing some internal
>      settings.
>      Kurt [http://www.utzingerk.com]

On December 27, 2004 at 01:24:26, Kurt Utzinger wrote:

>On December 26, 2004 at 23:06:19, Dan Ellwein wrote:
>
>>here's the game...
>>
>>P3/850
>>
>>Fischer Time: 10/10
>>
>>[Event ""]
>>[Site ""]
>>[Date "2004.12.26"]
>>[Round ""]
>>[White "Chessmaster 10th Ed."]
>>[Black "offset.a5.5"]
>>[TimeControl "600+10"]
>>[Result "0-1"]
>>[ECO "oft "]
>>
>>1.c4 g6 2.d4 Bg7 3.Nc3 d6 4.Nf3 Nc6 5.e3 Nf6 6.d5 Ne5 7.Nxe5 dxe5 8.e4 c6 9.Be2
>>O-O 10.O-O cxd5 11.cxd5 e6 12.Bg5 h6 13.Bh4 g5
>>14.Bg3
>>
>>[d]r1bq1rk1/pp3pb1/4pn1p/3Pp1p1/4P3/2N3B1/PP2BPPP/R2Q1RK1 b - - 0 14
>>
>>14. ...Nxe4!?
>
>      Hi Dan
>      A very interesting positional sacrifice to get a strong
>      pawn center. I however doubt that you will find another
>      engine to play this move without changing some internal
>      settings.
>      Kurt [http://www.utzingerk.com]


Interesting;-)

My own engine JanWillem, certainly not at the level of chessmaster, finds this
move immediately. But now with Kurts story above I am interested to know if this
is indeed the best move. Is it an Indication that JanWillem overvalues passed
pawns / pawncenters? JanWillem thinks it's drawish.

9605 >first : setboard r1bq1rk1/pp3pb1/4pn1p/3Pp1p1/4P3/2N3B1/PP2BPPP/R2Q1RK1 b
- - 0 1
9646 <first : Unknown Command: post
9646 <first :
9647 <first : pong 2
15141 >first : time 900000
otim 900000
15141 >first : go
15181 <first : Book moves: 0
15207 <first : 0 -59 5 155 e6d5
15210 <first : 1 -59 6 2292 e6d5 e4d5
15234 <first : 2 -59 8 8886 f6e4 e4d5 f8e8
15351 <first : 3 -30 20 46653 f6e4 c3e4 e6d5 e4c5
15546 <first : 4 -28 39 115095 f6e4 c3e4 e6d5 e4c5 g7f6
16007 <first : 5 -16 85 253635 f6e4 c3e4 e6d5 e4c5 b7b6 h2g3 e6d5
17281 <first : 6 -35 213 670086 f6e4 c3e4 e6d5 e4c5 e5e4 h2g3 g8f7 e2f3
20193 <first : 7 -4 504 1732933 f6e4 c3e4 e6d5 e4c3 e5e4 f2g3 g8f7 e2c4 f7e8
27970 <first : 8 -11 1282 4567618 f6e4 c3e4 e6d5 e4c5 e5e4 d1c2 f8f7 e2f3 g8f7
e2f3
48956 <first : 9 -4 3380 11986700 f6e4 c3e4 e6d5 e4c5 e5e4 d1c2 g8f7 e2c4 g8f7
b2b4 c5d3 d1b3
148816 <first : 10 3 13366 44648725 f6e4 d5e6 d8d1 e6f7 f8f7 h2g3 g8f7 g3e5 g8f8
e2c4 f8e8 e6f7 f7f8
234641 <first : 11 3 21949 74547567 f6e4 c3e4 e6d5 e4c5 e5e4 d1d2 b7b6 c5a6 g8f8
g8f8 c3e4 g7e5 f7e8 e2h5
234642 <first : move f6e4


Kind Regards, Laurens.



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